Search for "FINDME" to get to the interesting bit - the rest is here for context. Jul 19 10:51:24 --> Devalin (devalin@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 10:55:59 . Jul 19 10:56:53 * brightshadow[theopolis] pokes bindy Jul 19 10:57:48 i thought someone said the grass grew back ? Jul 19 10:58:49 Devalin Yes I thought grass was starting to get back Jul 19 10:58:50 <-- Raziw|8|afk (gweiss@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 19 10:59:11 --> Raziw|8|afk (gweiss@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 10:59:30 <-- Somebob has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 11:00:15 --> Guest475024394 (bellah@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:01:12 --> Somebob (somebob@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:02:14 Your funrace produced 37 deben of magnesium, and 213 deben of ash. Jul 19 11:02:20 Yeah, someone find out how to safely mine magnesium. Jul 19 11:02:21 Me like. Jul 19 11:02:45 Finally a use for a blast furnace. Jul 19 11:02:56 Too bad we can't build one next to the mines. Jul 19 11:02:58 that was OI, actually Jul 19 11:03:08 Right, but a blast would be even more ash. Jul 19 11:03:14 190 ash per 200 ore Jul 19 11:03:18 vs 213 ash per 250 ore Jul 19 11:03:25 Better, but not that much Jul 19 11:03:36 Take the metal into account (10 on BF) and the OI wins hands down Jul 19 11:03:56 Depends if you want the metal, or value cc highly. Jul 19 11:04:37 how long does bf take to fire? Jul 19 11:04:40 how much metal do you get from OI? Jul 19 11:04:45 just because of how difficult it is to get, I'd say OI would be the firing method of choice Jul 19 11:04:49 37 Jul 19 11:04:59 Sha. Jul 19 11:05:12 I'd think you could sell magnesium metal at a fair rate for its use in fireworks... Jul 19 11:05:17 <-- Somebob has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Somebob|Sleep))) Jul 19 11:05:18 --> Somebob|Sleep (somebob@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:05:23 damned DSL Jul 19 11:05:26 --- Somebob|Sleep is now known as Somebob Jul 19 11:05:27 Anyway Jul 19 11:05:45 37 metal in OI. And with the ash it gives, you can probably trade for enough charcoal to use your PF, too Jul 19 11:05:49 so bonuses abound Jul 19 11:07:17 brightshadow[theopolis]: Are you still at Bes? Jul 19 11:07:21 So mining 250 magnesium is really better than making 200 ash from pap? Jul 19 11:07:36 Once the environmental issues get settled, HELL yes Jul 19 11:07:45 Not for long Jul 19 11:07:50 he's going after newo Jul 19 11:07:56 Even though there's only one known magnesium vein, while pap and leeks are unlimited? :P Jul 19 11:08:04 yup. Jul 19 11:08:06 Transporting bricks to the mine site will get old really fast Jul 19 11:08:14 Magnesium is also unlimited. Jul 19 11:08:21 I have 29 days of waypoint time left after all of my trips still, Tamut Jul 19 11:08:26 True, but there are practical limitations Jul 19 11:08:28 and magnesium isn't going to be *only* there Jul 19 11:08:38 Let's see. Boards are wood. I have wood, lots Jul 19 11:08:39 It's obviously pretty rare, though Jul 19 11:08:44 canvas is flax. I have flax. Jul 19 11:08:48 how much do they give per level? Jul 19 11:08:53 dunno Jul 19 11:08:58 I stopped diggin when I had 548 ore Jul 19 11:09:09 since we were testing whether the sand would creep Jul 19 11:09:10 it did. Jul 19 11:09:13 Ash is leeks and wood. I have leeks and wood, lots. Jul 19 11:09:19 I don't. Jul 19 11:09:26 Hmm, so it still pollutes, even after the 'event'? Jul 19 11:09:27 leeks grow 21 at a time in the best spot at the best time for me Jul 19 11:09:31 yes Jul 19 11:09:38 It crossed the Nile. Jul 19 11:09:46 Tricky. Jul 19 11:10:00 I'd like to see it swallow all of egypt ;) Jul 19 11:10:13 Wake up, log in, and discover nothing but a giant sinkhole ;) Jul 19 11:10:25 She just needs a name. Jul 19 11:10:33 We can think up a name easy enough. Jul 19 11:10:43 acro acro acro Jul 19 11:10:56 well, until recently, I would've almost felt obliged to do that. People crying out for a "stranger" or some sort of outside challenge got me annoyed enough I was going to roll a few grief paid acccts Jul 19 11:11:11 and abuse people in creative ways, since they'd been asking. Jul 19 11:11:18 assuming 600 ore per level, 20tn per ash, 30tn for canvas, all other mine supplies free, and using an oi, it will no longer be worth the tn at level 340 or so Jul 19 11:11:29 You're a real team player, Bob. Jul 19 11:11:34 20 tn per ash is way expensive Jul 19 11:11:45 Other mine supplies are not free Jul 19 11:11:46 it's not that bad Jul 19 11:11:51 i didn't say they were Jul 19 11:12:02 Well, you have to account for the time making the jugs, boards, and bricks Jul 19 11:12:04 Tamutnefret, how much ash you have on hand to sell? Jul 19 11:12:11 And how quickly do you produce it? Jul 19 11:12:12 i just assumed they were for the calculation because i didn't feel like figuring it out Jul 19 11:12:15 Nileside wouldn't have been a target of choice, though. I would've preferred nice stuff like this. Jul 19 11:12:16 as opposed to the time growing pap and leeks Jul 19 11:12:26 Spewing gibberish about the Stranger and all that. Simple tactics Jul 19 11:12:44 building covering, borrowing a few of Devalin's myths.. that could've been fun Jul 19 11:12:49 And it'll be uneconomic time-wise way before it costs as much to mine as you get for selling it Jul 19 11:12:50 but now unnecessary Jul 19 11:12:51 Well, I see any accounts acting funny, I'll be sure to lobby and have 'em banished. Jul 19 11:13:11 S'a not money. Jul 19 11:13:16 S'a not economy. Jul 19 11:13:20 Sometimes I feel like mining. Jul 19 11:13:23 building covering is an exploit, all your characters can get banned for using that one Jul 19 11:13:31 And I never feel like making ash. Jul 19 11:13:47 Buy it then :P Jul 19 11:13:57 How much ash you got for sale? Jul 19 11:14:03 buildings covering *most* things are, yeah, but since I never actually intended to use these plans, that was more of an example Jul 19 11:14:09 I didn't say buy it from me :P Jul 19 11:14:16 And Bob's yer uncle. Jul 19 11:14:31 I've not had much trouble buying ash for my glasswork Jul 19 11:14:52 All my glass suppliers have burned out and moved on. Jul 19 11:15:04 Need more durable glass makers. Jul 19 11:15:10 Perhaps that'll be a new tech. Jul 19 11:15:15 It does get a bit boring once you've mastered 4 benches at once Jul 19 11:15:17 only one bid for the level 1 mag mine so far Jul 19 11:15:18 More "helpful" would be stirring up cans of trouble about, I dunno, rare resources being hidden, maybe a half-dozen GM scandals, get a few guilds to lie to me and copy that down, industrial espionage and sabotage.. all that fun stuff would've made a nice quasi-Stranger. Jul 19 11:15:30 But when you can produce 1 rod every 15 seconds, it doesn't take too long for most orders :P Jul 19 11:15:52 But you can only do that when you have ash and lime on hand. Jul 19 11:15:57 true. Jul 19 11:16:07 So it's a bit longer than 1 every 15 seconds. Jul 19 11:16:09 4 Glazier Benches at once ain't tough... Jul 19 11:16:17 But I own 24 limestone mines with my guild, and usually buy my ash Jul 19 11:16:20 I really should build more than one Jul 19 11:16:29 Lorekeep: I know, that's why it gets boring :P Jul 19 11:16:44 Burning limestone into lime is annoying. Jul 19 11:16:48 Making potash is annoying. Jul 19 11:16:54 S'a long and tedious process. Jul 19 11:17:00 You can do it at the same time as you do ash Jul 19 11:17:19 Or you could use macros, if you're really sick of it :P Jul 19 11:17:20 So find me some glass makers. Jul 19 11:17:24 We got some pyramids to build. Jul 19 11:17:32 <-- Lorekeep (Lorekeep@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 19 11:17:51 Well, I make glass, but the problem is that there isn't much I'll trade for at the moment, since I don't really _need_ anything :P Jul 19 11:18:05 And Bob's yer uncle. Jul 19 11:18:16 --> fiedvigo (tservo@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:18:39 Convince me that I want something and I'll make you some glass ;) Jul 19 11:18:48 You don't. Jul 19 11:18:51 You'll be leaving us soon. Jul 19 11:18:59 --> Timelord (TL@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:19:05 That's a very negative attitude. Jul 19 11:19:13 Perhaps. Jul 19 11:19:14 Though it might be accurate, it's still negative Jul 19 11:19:20 But I've seen it happen often enough. Jul 19 11:20:24 Yay! Move 8 handplant, thank you brightshadow! Jul 19 11:20:36 wheeeee Jul 19 11:21:26 Yer a blur. This doesn't help me unless I need a lot of sheep moved and yer in the neighborhood. Jul 19 11:21:29 * brightshadow[theopolis] flexes Jul 19 11:21:41 The fact that you can teach it to others who are better teachers to me nonwithstanding. :P Jul 19 11:21:49 grats tamut Jul 19 11:26:31 Where was I? Jul 19 11:26:35 Oh yes, ash Jul 19 11:26:56 At 9 leeks and about 1 wood per ash, it's not difficult to make Jul 19 11:28:18 and it doesn't cost any bricks, canvas, jugs, boards or waypoint time Jul 19 11:29:04 So make us some. Jul 19 11:29:05 We need lots. Jul 19 11:30:43 --> BriOfTheAlmostDoneObbyTech (BriOfTheAl@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:31:10 hey all, has everyone donated to the cause yet? Jul 19 11:32:02 <-- Bakt has quit (Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)) Jul 19 11:33:13 or anyone for that matter? Jul 19 11:33:39 heh, im only 22 wt away from being able to pan for gold Jul 19 11:33:39 I'm still working on getting enough perc to find the gold Jul 19 11:34:00 if the +4 perc recepie would actually give me +4 perc, i' Jul 19 11:34:07 i'd already be helping Jul 19 11:34:56 we got one in a public kitchen near the uni Jul 19 11:35:17 if its the cat nip one, it doesnt work for me, only get +3 perc Jul 19 11:35:40 hm... gotta check on that then Jul 19 11:36:04 i whipped up a ton of it the other day too :-/ Jul 19 11:36:17 ouch Jul 19 11:36:37 it gives everyone else +4 perc, so its not a waste... just annoying Jul 19 11:36:40 logging off to nap Jul 19 11:36:47 cya Bindy Jul 19 11:36:56 --- Bindy is now known as BindyZzzWKid Jul 19 11:37:09 later bindy Jul 19 11:43:23 smoka, earthlight and eeo Jul 19 11:43:26 My personal breakpoint for ash from magnesium would be at about level 25, if it was harmless to mine Jul 19 11:43:28 eoo* Jul 19 11:44:22 --> Magon[NRP] (magon@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:46:22 --> Bravy|kemet_german (hluka@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:46:22 --- Bravy|kemet_german is now known as Bravy Jul 19 11:47:14 aka get over here Smoka :P Jul 19 11:47:45 <-- Bravy has quit (Quit: -vIrulent- Killed (ChanServ (You've been online too long))) Jul 19 11:48:27 --> Bravy|ATITD_german (hluka@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:56:09 <-- Saxamon has quit (Quit: Ambition is like love, impatient both of delays and rivals.) Jul 19 11:56:54 Ick, speed 14 and I'm catching 8-12 deben fish :-( Jul 19 11:58:25 not late enough yet Jul 19 11:58:40 i only get max from like 1-3 i think Jul 19 11:58:48 unless i have the craftsman pole :D Jul 19 11:58:53 --> Tomossan (Tomossan@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 11:58:58 watermines give gems now? Jul 19 11:59:01 i mean Jul 19 11:59:02 ! Jul 19 11:59:15 They always did. Rarely. Jul 19 11:59:22 really? Jul 19 11:59:23 hmmm Jul 19 11:59:34 good job we have 5 watermines. easier than pulling on mines :P Jul 19 11:59:58 <-- BindyZzzWKid has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 12:00:39 need people to donate gold or gold wire please! Jul 19 12:01:17 oh do you now? Jul 19 12:01:21 what region r u in? Jul 19 12:01:44 OE, it's the last thing needed Jul 19 12:03:41 Yes, the last thing they need is more gold Jul 19 12:04:03 I thought they _did_ need more gold? :P Jul 19 12:04:18 Yes, and it Jul 19 12:04:25 is the last thing they need :-) Jul 19 12:04:52 we need gold and finished everythign else :P Jul 19 12:09:11 coulld use wire, we made 10 student forges for the nails but adding pinch rollers to all of them would be kinda expensive Jul 19 12:10:02 How can anyone believe that the dead patch wasn't caused by mining? Whenever someone mines, the dead patch increases, seems pretty obvious... Jul 19 12:10:30 Easy to disbelieve if you weren't there for the follow-up tests Jul 19 12:10:59 Even if you weren't, it seems an awful coincedince... Jul 19 12:11:01 But didn't it start to get greena gain? Jul 19 12:11:02 wtf are you talking about, it's just a giant string of coincidences Jul 19 12:11:07 No, it didn't Jul 19 12:11:14 must... have... ash Jul 19 12:11:33 The rocky areas stayed rock Jul 19 12:12:02 RichardDJames: heh Jul 19 12:12:07 The sunken water areas rose again, but that appears to have been it (in the short term anyway) Jul 19 12:12:43 hmm thought I saw green in the center at the last screenshot.. Jul 19 12:12:49 so theres a dead patch Jul 19 12:12:49 so what Jul 19 12:13:03 It destroys buildings as well Jul 19 12:13:17 There is a fairly advanced camp just across the river from it Jul 19 12:13:24 until its big enough to eat RP, ill be asleep Jul 19 12:13:45 we can call captain planet if it becomes a big problem Jul 19 12:13:58 wonder if you can build inb it without blowing up Jul 19 12:14:18 Apparently not Jul 19 12:14:33 A kitchen and some chests were built after the initial event Jul 19 12:14:33 i personally think that gunpowder should have more uses Jul 19 12:14:42 They were destroyed later Jul 19 12:15:22 --> Zanix (Zanix@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 12:15:38 im putting in a feature request: multipurpose gunpowder Jul 19 12:15:38 that a hint smoka? (get up here and pan!) Jul 19 12:15:43 The weird thing is, a couple of the buildings came back, but not all Jul 19 12:16:10 used for fishing, mining, gravel-making, grading.... you name it, BOOM, gunpowder can do it Jul 19 12:16:39 --> Rehpic|BotS (chatzilla@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 12:16:54 * Osmirik levels an annoying mountain Jul 19 12:17:53 --- Somebob is now known as Somebob|Sleep Jul 19 12:24:52 Hmmm. Looks like the german players just got a public nav-point. They now all share 0,0. Jul 19 12:25:37 did they do anything to get it, or did it just happen? Jul 19 12:25:39 maybe the red sand will poison the land like the magnesium did ours Jul 19 12:26:02 They had a chat with pharaoh yesterday. Jul 19 12:26:32 End of it was, that all got this navpoint, travel costs was halved, and Acro test was made much easier. Jul 19 12:26:43 pharaoh types fluent german? Jul 19 12:26:53 Ouch the Acro test would be bad with fewer players Jul 19 12:27:15 yeah Jul 19 12:27:35 Hmm, how come they get reduced travel costs? Jul 19 12:27:50 Also seems they get offline carrots. Jul 19 12:27:54 Not as many players so more traveling required for any trading Jul 19 12:28:52 Hmmm. Actually they get 3 public waypoints. 0,0 is only the first one. Jul 19 12:30:05 I demand improved travel also :P Jul 19 12:30:21 Lets all go over and start playing Kemet :) Jul 19 12:37:06 <-- Tomossan has quit (Quit: ) Jul 19 12:40:23 WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Jul 19 12:40:27 gastro 250 :D Jul 19 12:41:29 is there any benefit to going over 250? I've heard some people have gone as high as 255 - does it give any more Perc points? Jul 19 12:41:47 No benefit at all Jul 19 12:41:59 very little point on me working on any more recipes then ;) Jul 19 12:42:23 It's not the size of your Gastro score, ... :-) Jul 19 12:43:19 thats odd Jul 19 12:43:35 ATITD just stopped moving Jul 19 12:43:42 ahh there it goes Jul 19 12:43:45 network Jul 19 12:43:48 computer fart I guess Jul 19 12:48:32 --> Modesitt (Flickering@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 12:53:38 <-- BriOfTheAlmostDoneObbyTech has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 12:59:10 --> melandis (bill@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 12:59:33 <-- melandis (bill@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 19 13:02:16 --> Haggis[FoN] (Knutman@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 13:02:40 --> starling (parz@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 13:30:25 <-- starling has quit (Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)) Jul 19 13:31:26 <-- Timelord has quit (Quit: [insert something witty here]) Jul 19 13:42:33 --- Erusun|zzz is now known as Erusun Jul 19 13:46:34 --> Ancksunamun[THL] (poyzyn4u@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 13:48:56 --> ift (ift@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 13:49:29 <-- Erusun has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 13:54:25 --> assasssin (Email@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 13:55:18 --> assasssss (Email@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 13:55:29 <-- assasssss has quit (Client closed connection) Jul 19 13:55:42 morning all Jul 19 14:00:53 --> Nemik (Nemik@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 14:02:15 Can someone tell me how to do the marraige ritual? Jul 19 14:05:12 <-- Osmirik has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 14:05:34 <-- fiedvigo has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 14:07:47 --> fiedvigo (tservo@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 14:09:27 both people put medium diamonds on the Focuses of the altar(not the pillars), and 5 OTHER people meditate Jul 19 14:09:30 thats all Jul 19 14:09:44 if anything else occurs during this, you have to start over Jul 19 14:11:40 So if you put the diamond on a pillar, you have to start over, if someone meditates before both diamonds are on the focii, if the second person places something else(like a rabbit) on the focus, if one of the couple meditates during the ceremony Jul 19 14:11:52 anything, you would have to start over Jul 19 14:25:38 Anyone has silver for trade? Jul 19 14:28:54 --- psychladel-ZzZ is now known as psychladel Jul 19 14:29:09 --- psychladel is now known as psychladel-ZzZ Jul 19 14:29:12 pfft Jul 19 14:40:14 <-- Zanix has quit (Client closed connection) Jul 19 14:41:29 --> Garan[ZT] (Garan[ZT]@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 14:42:36 <-- Modesitt has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Modsitt))) Jul 19 14:43:01 --> Modsitt (Flickering@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 14:43:20 --> ShadowFlash (a@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 14:47:32 --> Kilaka (Kilaka@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 14:55:34 wow that magnesium just keeps getting worked.... Jul 19 14:55:41 and the damage just keeps on spreading out. Jul 19 14:55:44 --- Amira|afk is now known as Amira Jul 19 14:55:46 past the nile now Jul 19 14:55:46 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to Amira Jul 19 14:56:00 I hope my law is in the voting booths soon Jul 19 14:56:02 http://www.atitdimages.com/mag13.jpg Jul 19 14:56:04 three days is a long time though Jul 19 14:56:54 i just dont understand how this is a test for us. Jul 19 14:57:03 what do you mean? Jul 19 14:57:10 its hard to resist what appears like generousity. Jul 19 14:57:33 why get punished for working the public mines? what does that prove/mean? Jul 19 14:57:38 really confusing. Jul 19 14:58:06 it means that we can't trust everyone to collectively show restraint with a rare resource Jul 19 14:59:50 i think your proposal has more than a little to do with this though Jul 19 15:00:06 youve basically said get it while you can, cause we're gonna try to take it away again Jul 19 15:00:20 Sure, but that happens anyway with a public mine Jul 19 15:00:29 people think 'i'd better use it now before the mines are all level 30' Jul 19 15:00:29 --> Raland (Raland@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:00:39 this isnt a "normal" stuation Jul 19 15:00:47 yeah, but you really publicized this Jul 19 15:00:53 I'm not saying I don't wish we could act faster Jul 19 15:00:54 Amira, people have an even bigger reason to want more now Jul 19 15:01:03 For one, we have no idea how long till we get the next vein Jul 19 15:01:06 i know im gonna go take a turn on a mine Jul 19 15:01:06 Amira you could also ban the builder of the mines. Then tear down the mines and fill it with private ones ;) Jul 19 15:01:23 heh, i still think Khepry is teppy Jul 19 15:01:29 Duh me too Jul 19 15:01:42 I think public buildings also have to go unused for 7 days before you can tear them down with DPA :p Jul 19 15:01:58 oh yes.. forgot ;) Jul 19 15:01:59 For two, we also don't know how long we'll be able to use THESE mines with a law like yours coming Jul 19 15:02:01 I guess I can understand that people might be more eager to work quickly if they suspect they have a three day time limit Jul 19 15:02:03 But Jul 19 15:02:06 what is the alternative? Jul 19 15:02:06 You're actually making it WORSE trying to restrict use of the mines. Jul 19 15:02:08 leave them public? Jul 19 15:02:11 yes Jul 19 15:02:12 Yes. Jul 19 15:02:17 How is that a solution? Jul 19 15:02:18 theyll slowly get worked out Jul 19 15:02:24 Because there isn't a problem Jul 19 15:02:24 then the problem will go away Jul 19 15:02:30 http://www.atitdimages.com/mag13.jpg Jul 19 15:02:33 thats not going away. Jul 19 15:02:36 its getting worse. Jul 19 15:02:38 Haven't we already figured out, over several past incidents, that public mines of rare resources are a bad bad thing? Jul 19 15:02:52 pollution goes away Jul 19 15:02:56 Only when BES makes them. ;) Jul 19 15:02:57 i think this will probably go away too Jul 19 15:03:01 Regardless of whether there is a law to restrict them, that magnesium is going to be gone Jul 19 15:03:02 In a few days Jul 19 15:03:03 and if it doesnt, egypt is big Jul 19 15:03:18 I really believe that if people simply had continued pulling the mines last night, when Khepry was there, everything would have turned out fine.. Or else it wasn't Teppy but the Stranger ;) Jul 19 15:03:35 this is obviously a test by the stranger, or does not everyone understand that??? Jul 19 15:03:39 It is first come first served while the mines are still public, and hope to god we don't actually need magnesium for something in the future Jul 19 15:03:43 The only chance you have of convincing people is when camps start blowing up. Jul 19 15:03:44 The name Khepry wasn't chosen for no reason... Jul 19 15:04:07 yeah, it makes me sad that a lotta people are probably firing this ore in OIs for the ash :-/ Jul 19 15:04:12 Amira, I intend to use a PF to smelt any mag I can get my paws on, then shove it in a chest hidden somewhere and NEVER mention it agian Jul 19 15:04:22 the use of the magnesium is still an unknown... the whole point was to try to resist the greed of a rare resource. Jul 19 15:04:23 If it comes up, I bring it out. Jul 19 15:04:32 i intend to find another vein Jul 19 15:04:34 or die trying Jul 19 15:04:37 Modesitt, I wish we could count on everyone to show the same restraint. Do you think you can mine enough for all of our future needs? Jul 19 15:04:44 TheSmokapotamus: NOW your talkin! Jul 19 15:04:53 No, but there's probably enough people that will be doing a similar thing. Jul 19 15:05:07 All I know is what we've seen from past rare resource mines Jul 19 15:05:10 of course, the chances of me doing so are almost nil Jul 19 15:05:11 even stuff that isn't that rare Jul 19 15:05:14 like aluminum and tin Jul 19 15:05:14 but oh well Jul 19 15:05:35 the stuff gets mined to death within a few days, effectively stopping anyone else from using it in the future Jul 19 15:05:38 I repeat, your only chance of convincing people to stop is to point out camps being destroyed Jul 19 15:06:02 Modesitt, buildings were being destroyed yesterday and people didn't seem to care Jul 19 15:06:06 the threats from a godlike character arent enough for you Modsitt? :P Jul 19 15:06:20 and if there is no actual law restricting people from mining, one single person can take it upon themselves to make the decision for the rest of us Jul 19 15:06:21 There weren't any actual camps destroyed though, correct? Just things around the mines themselves? Jul 19 15:06:21 until i see locusts, this is just a prank Jul 19 15:06:31 Modesitt: the border hadn't reached camps yet Jul 19 15:06:45 what level are the mines now anyway? Jul 19 15:06:52 12-14 Jul 19 15:07:17 so the expansion should slow at worst, and stop at best Jul 19 15:07:34 just by virtue of the mines being too deep Jul 19 15:07:41 It is clear to me at least that the mines being public is both the worst solution for the environment, and the worst solution for conservation of the resource Jul 19 15:07:56 but you're too late to stop it Jul 19 15:08:03 I think I probably am Jul 19 15:08:08 but I'm at least going to try Jul 19 15:08:21 Better than seeing them three days from now and wishing I'd taken steps sooner Jul 19 15:08:35 <-- fiedvigo has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 15:08:37 --> starscream (starscream@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:09:18 in 3 days theyll be mined out Jul 19 15:09:29 I hope not, but I suspect you might be right Jul 19 15:09:30 Now that the thing has crossed the nile, actual camps will start getting whacked. Jul 19 15:09:36 still not enough of a reason to not try to stop it Jul 19 15:09:39 I wonder if it destroys pyramid blocks? Jul 19 15:09:52 although, i do have to say that its nice that they finally put decent pollution in Jul 19 15:10:02 heavy metals was kinda weak Jul 19 15:10:29 this isn't pollution in a normal sense though... do you think all magnesium mines do this? Jul 19 15:10:39 i hope so Jul 19 15:10:46 Yes. You said buildings actually burst into flames, correct? Jul 19 15:10:48 didnt start polluting until we got greedy Jul 19 15:10:52 Ie it was like the bonfire graphic? Jul 19 15:11:00 they were grassy level 11 mines when i got there Jul 19 15:11:03 No, they just vanish Jul 19 15:11:21 might just be a bug for all we know Jul 19 15:11:25 the buildings were destroyed by whoever was altering the terrain Jul 19 15:11:25 has anyone asked teppy? Jul 19 15:11:32 new buildings have remained. Jul 19 15:12:09 i am positive that a human was destoroying buildings, and removing peoples plants etc. Jul 19 15:12:23 New buildings actually got destroyed last night Jul 19 15:12:24 ooo invisible, evil pharaoh Jul 19 15:12:35 --> fiedvigo (tservo@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:12:37 Somebob said he made a kitchen that exploded? vanished at least. Jul 19 15:12:40 lets call him yppet Jul 19 15:12:51 There's actually 4 more types of pollution that we CAN'T detect... Jul 19 15:12:56 and i REALLY dont think its teppy.. havent seen him to RP that much... but its certainly his doing some way or another Jul 19 15:12:57 One of which is...phosphorus Jul 19 15:13:21 i was just there and saw at least 2 chests there. Jul 19 15:13:51 Phosphorus might have to do with stuff being destroyed. It could also have been a GM being malicious. Jul 19 15:14:00 [01:55] some dev was having fun with the magnesium mine horde Jul 19 15:14:00 [01:55] turning grass into sand, and rock and whatnot :P Jul 19 15:14:00 [01:55] um Jul 19 15:14:00 [01:55] I'm sitting in the puddle of water that *was* my kitchen at the moment Jul 19 15:14:00 [01:56] So replace that was with Is. Jul 19 15:14:07 Thats from 2:55 Eastern time this morning Jul 19 15:14:32 i dont think this is some disgruntled GM... its the STORY Jul 19 15:14:38 I bet the devs are having fun :) Jul 19 15:14:43 Malicious, story, whatever Jul 19 15:14:50 the GM's didnt even know! Jul 19 15:14:53 Apparently you've never heard of what GM Events in EQ were. ;) Jul 19 15:15:07 has pharaoh said anything officially about the incident yet? Jul 19 15:15:10 nope. never have/will play EQ ;) Jul 19 15:15:16 --> ALamer (NotALamer@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:15:17 What are GM events in EQ like then? Jul 19 15:15:49 the stranger says were greedy, pharaoh says were not. um...uh.. that pretty much IS the story.. :P Jul 19 15:15:58 They were generally along the lines of "Make big uber monster or monsters, put them in a zone(sometimes one with newbies), and then go on a killing rampage and call it a story." Jul 19 15:16:16 wow mod thats such a cool story Jul 19 15:16:24 you should make that a screenplay and sell it Jul 19 15:16:31 heh Jul 19 15:17:07 wow, when did EQ get so bad? It didn't seem that bad in 2001 when my former roommate was playing. Jul 19 15:18:11 <-- RichardDJames has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 15:18:18 Does someone know the requirements on a guildhall name? Length, special characters... (A title of a sculpture doesn't accept some/lots of character for example) Jul 19 15:18:24 but what demonstrates our greed? is it the mining in the first place? is it frivilous use of the metal? Jul 19 15:18:54 is this really the only magnesium deposit? Jul 19 15:19:03 I don't think its the only mag deposit Jul 19 15:19:11 I don't think we have a chance in hell of finding another one any time soon though Jul 19 15:19:34 seeing as how we didnt really discover this one..... Jul 19 15:19:48 My personal take on it is that the story demonstrates our greed at quickly using up a resource that may have to last us the entire telling Jul 19 15:19:49 --- TreeDuck is now known as Tree Jul 19 15:20:01 noone on the guidhall name? Jul 19 15:20:12 I'm not sure, ArmEagle Jul 19 15:20:13 although its producing the same amount as if we had worked it slowly Jul 19 15:20:19 --> Slyfeind (slyfeind@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:20:24 so as long as we spend it wisely, we arent squandering anything Jul 19 15:20:43 TheSmokapotamus: Yes, but it is a) more destructive this way and b) easily squandered on things like ash when we may need the actual magnesium in the future Jul 19 15:20:53 i dont think thats true smoka. magnesium is completely useless at this point. Jul 19 15:20:55 I'm not saying that using it on ash is bad Jul 19 15:21:01 I'm saying that we don't know what we'll need mag for Jul 19 15:21:06 and so using it ALL on ash is bad Jul 19 15:21:07 were greedy and we dont even know why! Jul 19 15:21:19 ooh! its rare! gimmie gimmie! Jul 19 15:21:20 dude - firing for ash Jul 19 15:21:22 what was the deal with people catching on fire? Jul 19 15:21:32 that almost makes it worth it Jul 19 15:21:38 its fairly inefficient at making ash. Jul 19 15:21:44 umm Jul 19 15:21:54 considering the cost of a level 12 mine (the first available level) Jul 19 15:22:01 With a public mine, 100 people can come along and think 'I could really use 400 ash, I'll just mine some and take it.' Jul 19 15:22:16 250 magnesium goes in, and by what i understanf 200+ ASh comes out with 37 Magnesium Jul 19 15:22:28 only been tested in a PF at this point. Jul 19 15:22:42 its been done in OIs Jul 19 15:22:43 While if the mines are restricted a little more, naturally the person controlling them wouldn't use up all their stocks on ash. They'd do some ash and save some magnesium Jul 19 15:23:12 yea, were i to get a mag vein, id probably give one mine to 9BF, and sell magnesium already smelted with a PF Jul 19 15:23:30 still.... its only a LITTLE ash... Jul 19 15:23:32 Right now the mines are public though Jul 19 15:23:38 hardly worth failig a test of greed. Jul 19 15:24:10 someone could even come along and grief them by expanding one to level 30 or something Jul 19 15:24:15 those mines are putting out 2k of ash per level Jul 19 15:24:15 Well Define Greed first Jul 19 15:24:18 and with the mines public, there is not a thing we can do to prevent that Jul 19 15:24:45 greed, as defined by khepry(you know the developers...), is working the magnesium mines. Jul 19 15:24:58 i think that this vein is a write-off Jul 19 15:25:00 goodbye Jul 19 15:25:05 the reason public rare mines are bad is that no one has to restrict themselves to taking only what they need. Jul 19 15:25:07 we need to find another one Jul 19 15:25:17 Yeah. This vein is FUBAR. Jul 19 15:25:18 --> LeatherRaven (PCZRhianna@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 15:25:21 so we fail? we are greedy? Jul 19 15:25:32 we ALREADY failed? Jul 19 15:25:32 I'm not ready to write it off as a failure yet :/ Jul 19 15:25:38 but I will if this law fails I guess. Jul 19 15:25:47 Hi are other people getting massive lag in the game at the moment? Jul 19 15:25:51 it doesnt matter if the law passes, itll be way too late Jul 19 15:25:54 do you still need sigs amira? Jul 19 15:26:05 No, its in the voting booth waiting for classification Jul 19 15:26:08 submitted it last night Jul 19 15:26:16 you can see it under 'recent petitions' if you look in the law library Jul 19 15:26:19 * TheDude[OWRH] pokes Teppy[eGenesis] with the law stick Jul 19 15:26:21 excuse me? Jul 19 15:26:27 I'm not, LeatherRaven Jul 19 15:26:36 What do you think I should start working on to be the first with an Empty Hand Tower? ;) Jul 19 15:26:37 Greed pffft, you know, for all the hard work we have done in the game..... and community support that is in the game pffffffffffffft Jul 19 15:26:41 seems fine to me LeatherRaven Jul 19 15:26:43 why would I be Jul 19 15:26:50 I'm just moving very slowly Jul 19 15:26:51 It would look good at my 4 Set's Ladders. Jul 19 15:26:53 Arm, gears. Jul 19 15:26:59 soon to be decorated with 2 opticons Jul 19 15:27:05 it's like moving through treacle Jul 19 15:27:16 I am wondering why crop production in 7L has dropped by almost half Jul 19 15:27:31 Modsitt how come you know all that? Jul 19 15:27:39 He's told us that it involves gears. Jul 19 15:27:56 thats a little alarmist, psychladel-ZzZ. what crops, and from what to what? Jul 19 15:28:00 oh did read that Jul 19 15:28:02 <-- LeatherRaven has quit (Quit: ) Jul 19 15:28:11 Actually Everything my guildmate tried to grow Jul 19 15:28:16 i'd work on your sanity. this is going to be STUPID expensive. GM's have told me that, so i would be afraid. :) Jul 19 15:28:18 yeah, cast about 12 billion gears Jul 19 15:28:28 Flax, Onions, Leeks, Garlic, Carrots, Cabbage, Barley Jul 19 15:28:32 im thinking itll cost a little more than a deep well Jul 19 15:28:41 The pessimist in me also says it'll involve paint because lately everything has required paint. Jul 19 15:28:41 barley? Jul 19 15:28:49 paint is aight Jul 19 15:28:57 as long as someone who isnt me makes it Jul 19 15:28:59 paint is fine as long as its not 50 of each kind of paint Jul 19 15:29:02 and we don't even have Gerbox design unlocked in CCR et ;( Jul 19 15:29:05 miranda #25 strain gave him 1 flax 3 rotten 1 seed Jul 19 15:29:21 psychladel-ZzZ: do you have any local pollution issues? Jul 19 15:29:23 when it would grow Jul 19 15:29:32 There isnt a single OI in the vicinity Jul 19 15:29:35 Uh-huh. Jul 19 15:29:40 OI's aren't the only things that pollute you know Jul 19 15:29:42 what about mines, or deepwells Jul 19 15:29:53 or casting boxes Jul 19 15:30:03 and this happened seconds after those mag mines were made public, and being mined Jul 19 15:30:06 Try doing some tadpole tests to see if you can find the radius Jul 19 15:30:42 the only thing he's been doign down there is feeding his sheep, and trying to get them to breed Jul 19 15:31:00 And he wasn't the only one complaining about it Jul 19 15:31:30 He said there was a group of people that was on their way up to RP to see what was going on ..... Jul 19 15:31:39 all complaining about the same thing Jul 19 15:32:29 Real sad thing is he's damn near ready to quit over it... Jul 19 15:33:22 no forum post or anything yet? Jul 19 15:33:27 I'd start one so we can track this Jul 19 15:33:33 The mines in the vicinity are prolly about 300 - 400 cords away or more Jul 19 15:34:03 i heard a few people say that last night, but they stopped suddenly. Jul 19 15:34:24 Prolly quit, or got ticked off and logged Jul 19 15:34:37 --> peer-sleep (peer@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:34:47 ...You think people would quit over ONE THING that has so far been around for 1 day and they know NOTHING about? Jul 19 15:35:18 I have seen more ridiculous crap Jul 19 15:35:31 If THIS is all it takes, they wouldn't have lasted long anyways Jul 19 15:35:35 I wouldn't myself, but some just don't have the patience Jul 19 15:36:28 Personally, I walked up to the strange rock real close to our camp with a sledgehammer, and some gunpowder.... Jul 19 15:36:54 Damn thing is still there Jul 19 15:37:24 you forgot the blasting cap. use some copper wires, and a little bit of thermite. Jul 19 15:37:39 dang. that has magnesuium in it.... :D Jul 19 15:37:39 Well I tried the hambone too... Jul 19 15:37:58 As for empty hand things - I'd think about anything that doesn't seem to get muhc use. Teppy almost never makes something for one purpose. The unused gem types, particular unused cut gem type/designs combos, etc. Maybe the rare marbles, are there any marbles that haven't gotten ANY use yet? Jul 19 15:38:06 Only thing I got was: Strange rock learned a new facet: hambone Jul 19 15:38:12 yeah mod Jul 19 15:38:15 --> antichaos[BES] (antichaos@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:38:17 the really high tug ones Jul 19 15:38:22 night granite Jul 19 15:38:31 and it is used for conflict shrines now :) Jul 19 15:38:53 conflict shrines are going to be really great. Jul 19 15:38:56 yeah Jul 19 15:38:57 You can downright count on those being used then. I have this FEAR in the pit of my stomach that he'll involve clay domes somehow Jul 19 15:38:58 ill finally start playing rake! Jul 19 15:38:59 hear that? Jul 19 15:39:08 its tug parties becoming obsolete Jul 19 15:39:28 its tug parties becoming MUCH larger :) Jul 19 15:39:35 I am wondering what the cats eye gem is gonna be used for Jul 19 15:39:37 and you cant have rake parties. Jul 19 15:40:08 Can too. You just need the area set up beforehand Jul 19 15:43:49 --- You are now known as FaceAnkh|afk Jul 19 15:46:13 it takes sooooo long to play a game sometimes :/ Jul 19 15:51:32 It's worse to have a time limit though. Jul 19 15:52:22 of course, im just saying remote games will be easier Jul 19 15:52:28 * Taharqy nods Jul 19 15:52:39 at least i can build a conflict shrine near my watermine ;) Jul 19 15:52:41 --> BindyZzzWKid (Bindy@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:52:49 :) Jul 19 15:52:50 --- BindyZzzWKid is now known as Bindy Jul 19 15:57:28 --> aukks (aukks@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 15:57:54 * Bindy listens to the silence Jul 19 15:58:33 * FaceAnkh|afk holds his breath Jul 19 15:58:34 Jul 19 15:58:54 you! there! too loud! Jul 19 15:59:11 just don't let the crickets talk about magnesium ;) Jul 19 15:59:28 so how'd that sand thing go? did it get bigger and bigger? Jul 19 15:59:32 I mean the magnesium Jul 19 15:59:33 nah, they are chirping about the silly acrobats who keep prancing on them Jul 19 15:59:48 say, what move do you have FaceAnkh? Jul 19 16:00:12 Bindy: AI, Inv Push, Somersault, Roundoff Jul 19 16:00:16 spread across the Nile. yet to see it for myself though Jul 19 16:00:24 Yup. Jul 19 16:00:26 hmm, where can i meet you, Face? Jul 19 16:01:04 aukks: see http://www.atitdimages.com/mag1.jpg -> http://www.atitdimages.com/mag13.jpg Jul 19 16:01:16 http://www.atitdimages.com/mag13.jpg Jul 19 16:01:17 Bindy: at LB in about 5 hrs? ;) Jul 19 16:01:33 ive set a WP. ill document it as it keeps changing. Jul 19 16:01:34 it's worse than 13 right now Jul 19 16:01:49 no grass patches anymore - solid rocks Jul 19 16:01:54 5 hours? um, how about 8 hours? I'll be fast asleep then :p Jul 19 16:01:55 i just took 13 like 30 minutes ago! Jul 19 16:02:08 has it reached the other side of the Nile? Jul 19 16:02:14 ROCK? no sand even? Jul 19 16:02:16 well, it was worse about hour ago. Jul 19 16:02:20 no sand Jul 19 16:02:26 not near the mines anyway Jul 19 16:02:54 yes. its on the other side of the nile, forgot to screenshot that. Jul 19 16:02:55 well anyways, this doesn't really harm anyone in any way, does this? Jul 19 16:03:00 just barely sandy on the other bank. Jul 19 16:03:03 I mean, there's still plenty of grass in egypt... Jul 19 16:03:22 aukks: Deohotep lives a stone's throw from the other bank :/ Jul 19 16:03:29 he's not too happy.. Jul 19 16:03:31 Aukks, it also apparently destroys buildings Jul 19 16:03:35 its a test put forth by the stranger in some way Jul 19 16:03:35 Oh, heh. Jul 19 16:03:39 Mwahaha. Jul 19 16:03:40 Cool. Jul 19 16:03:47 Atitd should have been like this from beginning. Jul 19 16:03:48 so were dealing with a godlike force :) Jul 19 16:04:01 "when someone asks you if your a god, YOU SAY YES!!!" Jul 19 16:04:24 Important safety tip, thanks egon Jul 19 16:04:25 Hmm Teppy is really teasing us by giving so much to research ;) Jul 19 16:06:01 ArmEagle: that's a good thing IMHO :) Jul 19 16:07:01 TheDude - You need a picture showing people how it's actually across the nile now Jul 19 16:08:56 --> grave06[NRP] (grave06@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 16:09:38 <-- Guest724023669 has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 16:09:39 Yes it is... but all that gold!! Jul 19 16:09:42 ;) Jul 19 16:09:58 --> umo_laptop (n_umo_I@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 16:09:58 <-- Umopepisdn has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 16:11:04 Oh yeah. TheDude, you also need to take screenshots of the people who are very close to the area, so if the sand eats their camp we can replace their buildings somewhere Jul 19 16:11:06 hmm, maybe we need to pin down someone with an autoed gold mine.. :) Jul 19 16:11:06 and there's still so much 'old research to do'. Then to think that that 'old' research is just 1 or 2 weeks old .. Jul 19 16:11:30 Pluribus[SOT] !!! ;) Jul 19 16:11:49 but all the smelting then.. Jul 19 16:12:17 chuck it in an OI, burn the land some more.. :S Jul 19 16:13:44 still, lots of research is good - gives people something to aim for :) Jul 19 16:14:09 the tech drought some time ago wasn't good for the local big guilds IMHO Jul 19 16:15:44 I dread to think what an Empty Hand Tower might need. Jul 19 16:15:54 REGIONAL work?? Jul 19 16:15:57 Gears. Jul 19 16:16:01 im thinking screwgears Jul 19 16:16:03 lots of em Jul 19 16:16:05 dozens Jul 19 16:16:21 tons of glass to Jul 19 16:16:25 and marbl Jul 19 16:16:39 and large sapphires Jul 19 16:17:17 lol I think other cut gem types too. Jul 19 16:17:27 Yeah. And topaz. Jul 19 16:17:34 at least for conflict shrine research we use Turquoise and not Amethysts :) Jul 19 16:21:50 if you think the cost is high, blame imotep, apparantly he had a big hand in setting the "higher bar" of the cost Jul 19 16:23:25 oh well Jul 19 16:23:47 without olav around, they wont have nearly as much fun making cc Jul 19 16:25:49 --- Igoka|ZzZ is now known as Igoka Jul 19 16:26:19 <-- Slyfeind has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 16:26:39 from recent remote view from Teppy, it seems the towers can be built in sections Jul 19 16:26:46 ( a guess ) Jul 19 16:26:54 and that regions can work on individual parts of the tower Jul 19 16:27:03 and come together to build it Jul 19 16:27:06 just a guess from my 2 cents Jul 19 16:27:30 It'd be nice to see something have screwgears again Jul 19 16:27:59 uh Jul 19 16:28:38 shrine research doesn't look that expensive, like 3-5 houses Jul 19 16:28:59 empty hand is going to be expensive Jul 19 16:29:43 i vote we get dors to do it Jul 19 16:29:59 get imotep to do it :) Jul 19 16:39:40 hmm, when Teppy was talking about the recent client update: Jul 19 16:39:41 You know what time it is? CHARCOAL TIME! Jul 19 16:39:50 Jul 12 18:49:11 Gonna have a building soon that's multi-component. Jul 19 16:40:06 admittedly, he also said: Jul 19 16:40:09 Jul 12 18:47:27 Oh yes, you can now mount a pony, and then walk it onto a boat, along with other Jul 19 16:40:09 friends (and ponies)... Jul 19 16:40:11 ;) Jul 19 16:40:43 * FaceAnkh|afk thinks Igoka's 2 cents may be right.. Jul 19 16:46:51 --> Slyfeind (slyfeind@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 16:48:00 http://www.atitdportal.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=105103#105103 Jul 19 16:48:03 does a MCB pollute and don't carrots like pollution of that? Jul 19 16:49:49 heavy metal pollution, as measured by tadpole test = good carrots Jul 19 16:50:04 try metal mines Jul 19 16:52:09 hmm. or OI's.. well they are in the desrt so that won't work.. Jul 19 16:52:41 it seems the time at witch carrots grow best shifts, is that correct? Jul 19 16:52:41 morning Jul 19 16:52:51 goodday Jul 19 16:53:02 is the bank open atm? Jul 19 16:53:43 anyone? Jul 19 16:56:06 --> TL (TL@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 16:56:10 --> Silvanis (silvanis_s@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 16:56:47 whats going on this morning? Jul 19 16:57:39 lots of tech reserach I guess :D Jul 19 16:58:21 :) Jul 19 16:59:41 ahh, what a morning. How's my little magnesium minions today? =) Jul 19 17:00:07 mining on double time :) Jul 19 17:00:15 very good Jul 19 17:01:15 i think it was way over due on the redecoration :) Jul 19 17:02:32 But worth it, indeed. Jul 19 17:03:19 hmm how wrong those small distaffs are.. you can put in 100 tow to get 300 twine. If you take that twine out you can only put 100 back. Jul 19 17:03:20 this is probably the biggest event yet... i mean how often do u get to destroy stuff in this game :) Jul 19 17:03:22 not really that much research going on Jul 19 17:03:37 upgrade it.. u can do 300 then Jul 19 17:04:14 waste of concrete.. Jul 19 17:04:17 --- Sprocket is now known as Sprocket|awa Jul 19 17:04:19 --- Sprocket|awa is now known as Sprocket|away Jul 19 17:04:24 besides ArmEagle how much rope do u need? :) Jul 19 17:06:37 yeah but it's just a little weird. Jul 19 17:08:09 100 twine = 20 rope... so u do it 5x and call it quits :) Jul 19 17:08:32 or jsut load 5 small distaffs ;) Jul 19 17:08:41 or 1 large :) Jul 19 17:11:39 <-- Knightmare|Still1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 17:22:51 <-- Slyfeind has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 17:30:16 <-- assasssin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 17:30:46 me needs Jumping Jacks, Pinwheel, Pushups, Roundoff, Squat Thrust, Toe Touches, Windmill, Greek Bridge, Jump Split, Cat Stretch Jul 19 17:31:21 if you know anyone with these moves, please let me know!! Jul 19 17:32:44 ::pouts:: i only know run in place Jul 19 17:33:01 lol Jul 19 17:33:49 I have toe touches, but I think we've acroed already. Jul 19 17:34:30 where are you brant? Jul 19 17:35:13 northern 7L. Jul 19 17:36:13 --> Corwitep (corwin@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 17:36:56 (offline right now though - let me know if you want to try anyway) Jul 19 17:36:57 --> |Taco| (sp_r@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 17:38:00 ok, I'm now trawling CotS Jul 19 17:39:22 <-- Magon[NRP] has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 17:39:34 --> Magon[NRP] (magon@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 17:40:49 --> Taera (bum@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 17:41:08 hows the mag mines looking? grass coming back? Jul 19 17:41:15 * Bindy is in Cots looking for pple with Jumping Jacks, Pinwheel, Pushups, Roundoff, Squat Thrust, Toe Touches, Windmill, Greek Bridge, Jump Split, Cat Stretch Jul 19 17:41:54 Taera: unsuprisingly, its getting much worse. Jul 19 17:42:00 http://www.atitdimages.com/mag13.jpg Jul 19 17:42:00 * Taera sighs Jul 19 17:42:03 any new shots? Jul 19 17:42:25 i wp Jul 19 17:42:30 I know all off those. Jul 19 17:42:39 'd home before i got the shot, but it just touches the opposite bank of the water. Jul 19 17:42:42 you do Haggis? Where are you? Jul 19 17:43:04 crap. its all the way to the other side? Jul 19 17:43:09 poor deohotep.... Jul 19 17:43:11 Wow, I can't believe you keep falling for that one. :D Jul 19 17:43:16 This is the third time now. Jul 19 17:43:26 aw cmon, quit teasing me :( Jul 19 17:43:35 * Bindy needs 17 facets to pass Jul 19 17:43:52 bindy. what is bellah for you? any good? Jul 19 17:44:00 what moves you need? Jul 19 17:44:02 it's all Haggis can do ;) Jul 19 17:44:02 any allignment parties this weekend? Jul 19 17:44:04 --- Guest475024394 is now known as Bellah[SOT] Jul 19 17:44:14 I can do everything. Jul 19 17:44:18 EEEEEVERYTHING Jul 19 17:44:21 I just choose not to. Jul 19 17:44:25 Hi Bellah, you're a good teach for me, but we already tried :( Jul 19 17:44:38 kick up Jul 19 17:45:42 Amira, you herea? Jul 19 17:45:44 <-- Igoka has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 17:45:50 nope Jul 19 17:46:16 --> Zahra (Zahra@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 17:46:53 --> assasssin (Email@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 17:50:11 <-- Zahra has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 17:51:30 bindy do yuy have kickup? i just got it yesterday Jul 19 17:51:44 damn i think i found a source of pox in OE :) Jul 19 17:51:57 your sheep? =( Jul 19 17:52:07 i dont do sheep Jul 19 17:52:15 ewww.. that didnt sound right Jul 19 17:52:17 thanks Bellah, but i have that :) Jul 19 17:52:37 --> Knightmare|Still1 (knightmare@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 17:52:43 ok if you find someonee you want mee to learn from, let me know =) Jul 19 17:52:46 geffen quit Jul 19 17:52:58 slatter his sheep then Jul 19 17:53:10 his camp was all gone yesterday Jul 19 17:53:17 i keep finding teachers who are last resorts... and I'm perfect for them... Jul 19 17:53:20 btw the day he quit Jul 19 17:54:14 if it makes you feel better bindy, you were my last resort :P Jul 19 17:57:10 yeah, if you "quit" your stuff is salvagable right away Jul 19 17:57:12 lol Jul 19 17:57:52 --> Zilmer (Zilmer@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 17:58:59 TheDude[OWRH] : at lest i got to his second camp first :) Jul 19 17:59:14 --> Igoka (Igoka@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 17:59:19 took me 2 hours just to put it in the chests :) Jul 19 18:00:41 what can i do with 50k tadpoles?> Jul 19 18:01:03 give them to me :P Jul 19 18:01:10 and what u going to do with them? Jul 19 18:01:18 uhhh, top secret Jul 19 18:01:23 doesn't involve obelisks tho Jul 19 18:01:25 another pack rat :) Jul 19 18:01:26 nothing to do with obelisks :) Jul 19 18:02:23 is there some way to automatically msg nickserv to identify me before I auto-join chat rooms? Jul 19 18:02:43 sure use script Jul 19 18:03:01 Igoka: usually you can put your identify command before your autojoins. Jul 19 18:03:12 where is that? Jul 19 18:03:42 what do u use to connect? Jul 19 18:03:45 i dont know. you set them up! :P what client? Jul 19 18:06:29 ewww, a script kiddie :P Jul 19 18:06:29 [TL VERSION reply]: mIRC v6.02 Khaled Mardam-Bey Jul 19 18:06:30 - Jul 19 18:06:30 [TL VERSION reply]: « Ë×Çü®§îöñ » Info«v9.4.2 for mIRC v6.02 32bit on WinXP» Released«August 10, 2002» Channel«#Excursion on Dal.Net» Webpage«http://excursion.cjb.net» « Ë×Çü®§îöñ » Jul 19 18:06:40 IRC Jul 19 18:06:47 TL: any good? Jul 19 18:07:19 --> Knightmare (Knightmare@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 18:07:26 « Ë×Çü®§îöñ » «Since 98» Version«9.4.2» Released«August 10, 2002» mIRC«v6.02 32bit» «What's On Your Puter?» «Get Your Copy At http://excursion.cjb.net» Jul 19 18:07:26 [1:06pm] ««Ë®®öR»» #atitd You cannot use colors on this channel. Not sent: « Ë×Çü®§îöñ » «Since 98» Version«9.4.2» Released«August 10, 2002» mIRC«v6.02 32bit» «What's On Your Puter?» «Get Your Copy At http://excursion.cjb.net» Jul 19 18:07:29 grr Jul 19 18:07:34 same thing Jul 19 18:07:44 i like excursion it has it all Jul 19 18:08:25 it has build in fanctions for OPs .. good protection... good scripts... build in mp3 :) Jul 19 18:08:27 u name it Jul 19 18:08:38 I use nexgen acidmax Jul 19 18:08:49 --> idnic (idnic@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 18:08:54 i stink.. got to hit the showers... Jul 19 18:08:55 v2.0.28.09 (mirc 6.03 32bit) ©2003, KnightFal - team nexgen - www.team-nexgen.com Jul 19 18:08:56 bbl Jul 19 18:09:31 theres an info bot set up over on sorcery's server Jul 19 18:09:49 those are fun :) Jul 19 18:09:58 <-- Knightmare|Still1 has quit (Quit: STOP USING STRATICS! Use irc.sorcery.net channel #atitd!) Jul 19 18:10:11 wow, what was that? Jul 19 18:10:12 ;) Jul 19 18:10:38 --> XanragQuaashie (ask@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 18:11:52 I just use mIRC without so much as a single script. Jul 19 18:12:40 <-- TheSmokapotamus has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 18:15:49 scripts make it fun Jul 19 18:16:51 --> Amuniet (moralesy@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 18:18:13 --> Mung (pittmanp@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 18:21:25 <-- antichaos[BES] has quit (Quit: In the words of my ex-girlfriend "I'm leaving you") Jul 19 18:22:11 anyone near DoN/Sinai border that can help me start a flax gin? Jul 19 18:22:58 hk Jul 19 18:23:01 bah Jul 19 18:23:12 anyone remember the requirements for the new tech? Jul 19 18:23:20 (in the crystals section) Jul 19 18:24:01 igoka sure if the price is right =) Jul 19 18:24:11 * Bellah[SOT] wishes she could be taught -( Jul 19 18:24:25 5 king's turq, 20 queen's turq, 20-30 something else turq... Jul 19 18:25:09 Hey, maybe I can trade som of my turq for other cuttables then. 2:1 or something. Jul 19 18:25:15 some Jul 19 18:26:05 I watched my water mine yesterday, got 3 medium quartz and 7 cuttable turq.. sigh. Jul 19 18:28:05 --- Rhayde|lineage2 is now known as Rhayde|afk Jul 19 18:28:26 --- Rhayde|afk is now known as Guest220062884 Jul 19 18:28:44 --> Dakarai (Dakarai@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 18:29:31 --- Guest220062884 is now known as Rhayde|afk Jul 19 18:29:40 hey Xanrag :P Jul 19 18:29:45 how many TN per canvas will you take? Jul 19 18:30:20 oh, I usually go by the average at .info Jul 19 18:31:13 so round 35? Jul 19 18:31:33 although sometimes I recalc the average without the two highest and two lowest costs, as some people are a bit whacky Jul 19 18:31:33 just seeing if I can make your deposit in one trip ;) Jul 19 18:31:58 shouldn't be a problem :P Jul 19 18:32:32 I just traded for omse concrete, but need moooore. Jul 19 18:32:35 some Jul 19 18:32:45 * XanragQuaashie whacks his evil laptop keyboard that makes him mistype. Jul 19 18:33:37 Sigh.. I guess I'll just have to pucker up and move. I ran across this lovely oasis with palms in DoN.. can't remember if it had trees though. Jul 19 18:34:27 muahaha! my work is done. Jul 19 18:34:46 work? Jul 19 18:35:04 --- CrashCat|sleep is now known as CrashCat Jul 19 18:35:06 installing the evil keyboard :P Jul 19 18:35:15 evil keyboard? what the Jul 19 18:35:18 <-- Dakarai has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 18:35:26 read back 4-5 lines Jul 19 18:35:29 It isn't too bad; some laptops have teeny tiny keys, those are really evil. Jul 19 18:35:46 My last laptop didn't have an ALT GR key.. wasn't too fun to code with. Jul 19 18:35:56 oh. you evil person you. Jul 19 18:36:01 * CrashCat throws a can of vesting at Knightmare. Jul 19 18:37:28 So.. The Stranger has shown himself a bit. Jul 19 18:37:29 <-- Igoka has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 18:37:47 It'd be neat if the pollution effect was added to all mines, OI:s and furnaces and forges.. Jul 19 18:37:54 see how fast we turn egypt into a wasteland :P Jul 19 18:39:54 I hear CoTS is nice.. but wasn't there another area added even more recently? Jul 19 18:40:08 --> Igoka (Igoka@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 18:40:17 I want to know who all the greedy bastards are who took all the magnesium, and then drew up a petition saying no one else could work them Jul 19 18:40:27 sorry crashed, no smelting for silver? Jul 19 18:40:49 what? Restate your original question igoka. Jul 19 18:41:03 silver doesn't get smelted, correct Jul 19 18:41:06 it's mined as metal Jul 19 18:41:08 ah... do we need to smelt silver? or is silver mined just silver? Jul 19 18:41:11 Strangely enough.. Jul 19 18:41:27 I've got 1000 silver I need to pulverize.. whee, that'll be a hoot. Jul 19 18:41:28 thanks Jul 19 18:41:28 igoka silver is mined db Jul 19 18:41:30 it comes out in little silver 1oz bars :) Jul 19 18:41:38 heheh Jul 19 18:41:52 I need to get silver powder for opticon Jul 19 18:41:53 so I'll have the 20 silver in no time lol Jul 19 18:41:57 ok, so explain silver grinding, and why it's a pain in the butt ;P Jul 19 18:42:12 in a grinder, if you don't work it ever 22-23 seconds, it breaks Jul 19 18:42:14 * Igoka knows nothing about resources, only about running around Egypt with head cut off Jul 19 18:42:20 grinder breaks if less than two people with high quality food use it Jul 19 18:42:24 so you need multiple people with +end recipe Jul 19 18:42:27 and even then, it is a pain I hear.. Jul 19 18:42:30 The barrel grinder is one of the most evil, soul-sucking devices in all of ATITd Jul 19 18:42:47 It can be macroed if you have a mule I hear.. Jul 19 18:42:49 More people probably used mentor points for half-priced Lab Con 1 than everything else COMBINED Jul 19 18:43:18 hmmm, anyone firing a master forge soon? Jul 19 18:43:25 hehe, need pinch rollers :( Jul 19 18:44:22 sigh.. right, you lose everything you upgraded with when you salvage. Jul 19 18:44:29 Still, shouldn't be too much value. Jul 19 18:44:32 wow, I forgot how much I like Sepultura... Jul 19 18:45:23 hmm have been at the telephone and don't rememember what i was cutting. a green cuttable gem is turquoise right? Jul 19 18:45:24 I think I may finish this pyramid tonight Jul 19 18:45:48 is there any use for turq yet? Jul 19 18:45:58 some needed for opticon Jul 19 18:45:58 yes the new Confl research Jul 19 18:46:09 the conflict research is out already?? Jul 19 18:46:11 I've got 25 turq or so just lying around.. Jul 19 18:47:07 No Knight, we mean TO unlock it Jul 19 18:47:30 that's what I mean, it's researchable? Jul 19 18:47:33 what's the cost? Jul 19 18:47:56 king's tomb turq.. and lots of other turq Jul 19 18:48:11 how many white and black boards? Jul 19 18:48:22 like Jul 19 18:48:28 30000 boards in total Jul 19 18:48:31 another 40k boards wasnt it? Jul 19 18:48:32 good :) Jul 19 18:48:34 alot Jul 19 18:48:34 ehm.. 30k Jul 19 18:48:35 about 6 different types Jul 19 18:48:38 and some paint Jul 19 18:48:46 I suggested that :P Jul 19 18:48:54 hmm it isn't smart to holda hotkey at the gem cutting table too long... Jul 19 18:49:21 Gems aren't made of solid matter, as you can see if you press the turn keys too fast. Jul 19 18:49:28 It's mighty morphing cuttable gems! Jul 19 18:49:32 I like pressing 2 at once Jul 19 18:49:44 it sort of goes free-form for a bit Jul 19 18:49:47 turns liquid Jul 19 18:50:17 I had a gem made up of three pieces once, that was pretty neat.. just hovered in the air. Jul 19 18:50:35 * XanragQuaashie is going to make an impossible cut, then recommend it as a new one. Jul 19 18:51:10 I still like this one. http://www.e-pcsolutions.com/images/knightmarecut3.jpg Jul 19 18:51:30 logicall XanragQuaashie it won't be impossible ;) Jul 19 18:51:35 too nice Jul 19 18:51:40 have I shown anyone my dual-thistle I made? Jul 19 18:51:53 igoka: how many pinch rollers do you need? Jul 19 18:52:00 Darke: Depends on the random number generator. Technically I could take an entire uncut gem as a cut. :P Jul 19 18:52:07 and if it never generates the same gem again, it'd be impossible. Jul 19 18:52:11 okay thats true Jul 19 18:52:14 and this one. http://www.e-pcsolutions.com/images/knightmarecut4.jpg Jul 19 18:52:40 <-- Modsitt has quit (Quit: Give a man a match and keep him warm for a minute. Light him on fire and he'll feel warm for the rest of his life.) Jul 19 18:53:09 I hope "Make 10 small gears" gets added to the MCB soon.. I'll need a lot Jul 19 18:53:52 http://corwin.technogoth.co.uk/photos/simsgem.png Jul 19 18:54:23 ^ how to make people think they are playing the Sims ^ Jul 19 18:55:05 Anyone know if the crystal exchange is stabilized and back in business? Jul 19 18:55:12 XanragQuaashie: yep, all go :) Jul 19 18:55:58 anyone know if OE finished unlocked obby tech yet? Jul 19 18:56:02 Brant|SN Bravy|ATITD_german brightshadow[theopolis] Jul 19 18:56:13 still need gold wire I think Jul 19 18:56:29 I'll be logging in in a few here and I can ask, I'm located extremely close to that uni, Jul 19 18:56:45 FaceAnkh|afk: I've got extra crystals.. should I turn them in and try to sell the IOU:s or try to sell the crystals? Hmm.. Jul 19 18:56:51 but my BET is a good bit of gold wire left Jul 19 18:56:54 <-- TL (TL@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #ATITD Jul 19 18:57:11 I belive thats what they were at last night, and still needed like 400 gold worth of wire, lol Jul 19 18:57:13 XanragQuaashie: up to you - leaving the crystals in the exchange helps everyone if they're rare ones :) Jul 19 18:57:16 I'm two minutes run from that uni, but this comp can't run atitd :P Jul 19 18:57:39 FaceAnkh|afk: Which are the rare ones? Although I can guess, since I'm missing Amen-Ra and Hathor for my own octec. Jul 19 18:58:42 rare=not much in stock - I'll go check what those are at the minute (it varies) Jul 19 18:58:44 I guess I should wait and see if I'm going to move first though, I'd need a lot of WP time for that. Jul 19 18:58:58 I think Hathor is pretty low atm Jul 19 18:59:03 --- You are now known as FaceAnkh Jul 19 18:59:09 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to FaceAnkh Jul 19 19:00:59 <-- Corwitep has quit (Quit: Client exiting) Jul 19 19:01:06 -Global- Realms of Torment invites you to an Open Developers Chat with the Developers of Realms of Torment in #realmsoftorment, the chat will start in 5 minutes. Jul 19 19:01:23 ok, the low ones are: Amen Ra (13), Dua (9), Hathor (5 = closed), Osiris (14), Shu (15) Jul 19 19:01:26 --> Jaolen (jaolen@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:03:19 hmm.. i have 5 extra of osiris and shu.. but I need hathor. :P Oh well, I'll check by later then I suppose; I still don't have everything else I need. Jul 19 19:03:27 really? I got a bunch of Butos to trade in Jul 19 19:03:51 --- umo_laptop is now known as Umopepisdn Jul 19 19:04:32 Face Jul 19 19:04:35 What are the rare ones Jul 19 19:04:43 --> Corwitep (Corwin@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:04:48 those he just listed? :P Jul 19 19:05:03 And is Herken still functioning as an OE CE outlet? Jul 19 19:05:26 do pyramid construction sites still disappear? Jul 19 19:05:31 --> Pardok (Pardok@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:05:31 No, Knight. Jul 19 19:05:43 What number do you need to take them off the rare list? Jul 19 19:06:05 ok, so they will stay there forever now... good Jul 19 19:06:32 Hmmm Jul 19 19:06:33 Wow Jul 19 19:06:40 There is STILL an invisible person at the mag mines Jul 19 19:06:47 I ust logged in and cant do acro there :) Jul 19 19:06:49 damn GMs Jul 19 19:06:57 ;) Jul 19 19:07:02 lol Jul 19 19:07:21 Jul 19 19:07:26 I want to know why people there took all the stuff and now want to ban mining them Jul 19 19:07:46 It is for our own good. Jul 19 19:07:58 the miners arent complaining about anything Jul 19 19:08:13 ok, OE Obelisks of Hardwood ONLY needs 4523 Gold Wire left. Jul 19 19:08:18 not me or plur. we are in sinai? Jul 19 19:08:32 --> Modesitt (Flickering@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 19:08:47 it seems like the people that WERE bitching about Khepry having all the mines, now want to control them Jul 19 19:08:49 bastards... Jul 19 19:08:54 I hate people... Jul 19 19:09:10 Kill 'em all! Jul 19 19:09:24 I wish I could. I need a gun ingame.. Jul 19 19:09:42 Isn't there a famous quote like that.. "This game would be great, if it wasn't for the players." Jul 19 19:09:53 Umopepisdn: the Crystal Exchange closes a crystal when it has only 5 Jul 19 19:10:10 Hmm... Create Paranoia... AFK an invis GM there... and no one will do anything Jul 19 19:10:11 This game is better than others two, I've only met two unfriendly people so far. Jul 19 19:10:17 Unfortunately it only takes one to ruin a game. Jul 19 19:10:30 s/others two/others though/ Jul 19 19:10:32 no it doesn't Jul 19 19:10:48 unless you're a wuss that is :) Jul 19 19:10:54 * XanragQuaashie is sensitive! Jul 19 19:10:57 * Taera is doing acro in the BES area Jul 19 19:11:06 i've met tons of unfriendlies. Jul 19 19:11:28 --> Amosis (b@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:11:32 I met this one guy, asked if he wanted to acro, he said sure, I acro'd and taught a facet, he said thanks and walked off Jul 19 19:11:35 not a single trade has been botched for me so far, that's good. Jul 19 19:11:40 I was laughing for 10 minutes Jul 19 19:11:57 Knightmare: That isn't malicious at least. Jul 19 19:12:02 it was funny Jul 19 19:12:09 Heck, I need to teach another facet so I've tought 14. :) Jul 19 19:12:17 i've taught ~150 Jul 19 19:12:21 and still have one move :( Jul 19 19:13:11 my acro list = huge Jul 19 19:13:22 and I still can't learn any last facets :( Jul 19 19:13:26 I haven't updated my info on .info for ages Jul 19 19:14:36 Knight, come train with me :) Jul 19 19:14:43 actually, no, that's right. I taught a facet today, it was only 103 Jul 19 19:14:45 so not 150 Jul 19 19:14:47 <-- Silvanis has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 19:15:06 -Global- Realms of Torment invites you to Open Developers Chat with the Developers of Realms of Torment in #realmsoftorment, starting now. Jul 19 19:15:54 you can check on your tests menu these days Jul 19 19:17:13 oh really? I didn't know that Jul 19 19:17:29 --> Slyfeind (slyfeind@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:18:53 anyone remember the link to the new barley guide? Jul 19 19:19:32 n/m, found it Jul 19 19:22:11 <-- Guest124023369 has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 19:22:12 how is Herpeculture progressing? Jul 19 19:22:42 <-- Pardok has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 19:24:39 ok, 4 barley patches = hard Jul 19 19:25:10 no Jul 19 19:25:15 8 patches=hard Jul 19 19:25:34 this is my first attempt Jul 19 19:25:44 you fool :) Jul 19 19:25:51 start with one Jul 19 19:25:58 then afger a few tried go to 2 Jul 19 19:26:02 ect, ect... Jul 19 19:26:04 hehe Jul 19 19:26:06 I am now Jul 19 19:26:07 :P Jul 19 19:26:12 i miss the weeds if i don't spend a few seconds rotating camera and looking at it Jul 19 19:27:27 roflmfao... my cat just fell off the bed Jul 19 19:28:46 --> Merloth (merli@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:29:20 will it grow more after it says "ready to harvest" Jul 19 19:29:22 or is that it? Jul 19 19:29:28 nope, that's it Jul 19 19:29:28 that it Jul 19 19:29:29 yep, that's it ;) Jul 19 19:31:18 --- You are now known as FaceAnkh|afk Jul 19 19:31:19 so why wasn't this "blight" in effect when the now public mines were worked from level 1 to the level they were at when they were made public? Jul 19 19:31:26 --- FaceAnkh|afk removes channel operator status from FaceAnkh|afk Jul 19 19:31:26 --- FaceAnkh|afk gives voice to FaceAnkh|afk Jul 19 19:31:39 because it wasn't friday :) Jul 19 19:31:50 that seems to be a contraindication that the blight is linked to actual working of the mines Jul 19 19:32:05 it's linked to the devs activating it. Jul 19 19:32:21 I think that the spread seems linked to time rathre than the mines being worked. Jul 19 19:32:39 sure would be eeasier to code, but not as effective visually. :) Jul 19 19:33:26 the only thing that one can say is directly linked at this point is the whole water/moat effect Jul 19 19:34:00 * Taera is acroing by BES- last call Jul 19 19:34:05 not really.. it probably has more to do with the timing as an event rather than the mines themselves. Jul 19 19:34:13 * ur nods. Jul 19 19:34:23 --> Gormengast (Gormengast@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:34:26 maybe the "blight" can only be contained by mining out the vein. Jul 19 19:34:28 :) Jul 19 19:34:44 veins can not be "mined out" Jul 19 19:34:46 if the blight spreads with the digging, then sure; digging it down will stop the spreading. :P Jul 19 19:34:49 veins are infinate Jul 19 19:35:02 I thought there was a miax depth for mines? Jul 19 19:35:10 maybe magnesium mines aren't? Jul 19 19:35:10 if there is, it's not 20 :) Jul 19 19:35:22 ok, both beds have all 3 weeds, wtf... Jul 19 19:35:46 welcome to barley. Jul 19 19:36:01 I think those weeds drank egyptian wine :) Jul 19 19:36:15 It could be the speed of mining effects the blight as well... Jul 19 19:36:37 Put 3 people on a mine with +20 end and they mine a bit faster than 1 without food Jul 19 19:36:52 true Jul 19 19:37:08 here's what I don't understand: Jul 19 19:37:23 why has there been no budgetting (mentioned). Jul 19 19:37:26 people say it was the number of people. If so, why doesnt that happen at red sand digs? or festivals? Jul 19 19:37:36 why don't people figure out what magnesium they need, mine that, and then wait? Jul 19 19:37:44 these mines arent normal mines.... Jul 19 19:37:50 Taera, those events don't use mines Jul 19 19:37:54 because they need as much as they can get. They are greedy. Jul 19 19:38:01 because its more effective to spend a little effort now and secure what you may need in the future Jul 19 19:38:03 Garan, exactly, so it cant just be the number of people Jul 19 19:38:08 it has to be the number of people mining Jul 19 19:38:08 they want as much as they can get... but that applies to grass too Jul 19 19:38:09 --> Lorekeep (Lorekeep@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:38:13 there is obviously some sort of "evil presence" that is causing the terrain to change. Jul 19 19:38:17 the cost to work a level 20 mine is higher than a level 15 Jul 19 19:38:20 the mines 'r still causing blight to spread? Jul 19 19:38:23 its NOT just a new form of pollution..... Jul 19 19:38:28 so working them at a lower level is more efficient Jul 19 19:38:39 Gorm, yep Jul 19 19:38:48 Dude, also look at all the strange rocks Jul 19 19:38:56 efficiency does not matter, when budgetting makes sure there is enough for all. Jul 19 19:39:06 or rather, strangeR rocks. Jul 19 19:39:07 it also appears to be controlled by a human in some fashon or another... Jul 19 19:39:09 Gormengast: its more accurate to say that the blight is still spreading, at some rate, yet to be determined Jul 19 19:39:19 i dont think there is any "code" to defeat here Jul 19 19:39:44 Garan, but how to regulate? Jul 19 19:39:54 mine it slower, faster, whatever. it will still spread. Jul 19 19:39:55 are the mines still being worked? Jul 19 19:40:01 --> Destiney|13 (Destiney@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 19:40:07 they are being worked almost non-stop. Jul 19 19:40:11 Gormengast: not right now Jul 19 19:40:20 the terrain is dead across the nile at this point. Jul 19 19:40:36 wonder if salvaging 'em would do anything... Jul 19 19:40:54 Hello n.n Jul 19 19:41:56 Think that is bad... Just imagine if one was dicovered near BES or FoA Jul 19 19:42:03 or OWRH :-) Jul 19 19:42:23 or SoT Jul 19 19:42:25 err Jul 19 19:42:28 SOT* Jul 19 19:42:28 time to log on and fert the grapes.. Jul 19 19:42:33 ack! Jul 19 19:42:35 Pluribus[SOT] - most people would be happy about one being discovered near BES ;) Jul 19 19:42:37 --> Saxamon (DemonSax@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:42:44 Yup, but noone seems to care about us :-( Jul 19 19:42:51 good thing my camp is 100% crowded, and has been +7 percep dowsed already ;) Jul 19 19:42:54 I wouldn't mind walking to SOT :) Jul 19 19:43:03 ROFL... Darke, I am sure theey wouldnt be Jul 19 19:43:27 --- Darke is now known as Destrin Jul 19 19:43:34 stupid MIRC again :p Jul 19 19:43:39 Does anyone have a Masters Casting Box firing anytime soon? Jul 19 19:43:41 Which is the main point... It seems to be a major Eco Disaster and people are doing nothing... Jul 19 19:44:14 TheDude: only way to go is ancient map ;) Jul 19 19:44:16 ppl just don't care Jul 19 19:44:18 we did that before moving in Jul 19 19:44:24 besides not doing any mining yourself, what really can be done? Jul 19 19:44:30 Taera: actually... ahkmet did use an ancient map on 1/2 of our camp ;) Jul 19 19:44:48 all we can do is tell people not to mine, and they do anyways :( Jul 19 19:44:53 could make a law that no mines may be built in that coord set and any mine already there is publicly salvagable. Jul 19 19:44:55 has amira's cooling off petition been submitted yet? Jul 19 19:45:01 at this point, we deserve an ecological disaster :( Jul 19 19:45:01 but will that solve the problem? Jul 19 19:45:15 why TheDude? Jul 19 19:45:27 we've kept our industry away from sensitive areas Jul 19 19:45:57 the mines were worked long after we were warned (which is understandable, khepry could have been a nutball) Jul 19 19:46:10 and LONG after the grass started to die.... Jul 19 19:46:21 and long after it spread wildly, and took out buildings.... Jul 19 19:46:27 are pple still working the mines?? Jul 19 19:46:40 they were all collapsed the last time i took a screenshot Jul 19 19:46:41 and long after it started crossing the nile. Jul 19 19:46:51 but someone was scoping them out. Jul 19 19:47:48 they aren't being worked Jul 19 19:47:51 when someone blessing a strange rock, making fire, and changing terrain tells me that i'm greedy, and to not work the mines. i listen :) Jul 19 19:48:14 my guildies were just there, no one is there now Jul 19 19:48:58 I'm looking to trade grapes soon.. I've got 30 vineyards with 4 different cuttings, 300-400 concentration, 400-500 grapes now.. Jul 19 19:49:30 grown on grasslands, fertilized with perch. Jul 19 19:50:17 no, 24 vineyards.. never did find that last cutting type :/ Jul 19 19:50:44 what one do you need? Jul 19 19:51:00 I don't remember.. I know I have four of the basic five. Jul 19 19:51:10 Looking for crossbreeds too.. heard obiwan did some? Jul 19 19:51:37 If you're near southern Vok I've got some grapes you can have, as well as various cuttings. Jul 19 19:51:50 <-- Raland has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 19:51:57 Central OE, so not too far.. two hours run? ;) Jul 19 19:52:01 <-- ur has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 19:52:41 Old Ugly, Red Sun, Sugarskin, Black Globe, Honeydrop Jul 19 19:52:46 --> Khamenes (billaben@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:52:48 anyone know the URL to the alligment page? Jul 19 19:53:04 good morning egypt Jul 19 19:53:16 I've got the basic ones as well as crossbreeds, and could give you as many grapes as you can carry. Jul 19 19:53:16 RiverWalker: I have to remember when I check next time. Jul 19 19:53:33 remember to check Jul 19 19:54:03 Kilaka: Interesting. I'll write down your nick somewhere.. ehm.. where I won't forget it. I hope. Jul 19 19:55:08 <-- Aggie has quit (Quit: ) Jul 19 19:55:23 I grow more grapes than I can manage to squish. Jul 19 19:55:29 well I can give you a cut of the one your missing, if you stop by my camp while I'm online Jul 19 19:55:46 Yeah, that isn't so hard I gatherr kilaka.. but you need from different microcliamtes and all. That's why I'm hoping to trade :) Jul 19 19:56:16 I really tend to think the microclimates really don't matter. Jul 19 19:56:24 * XanragQuaashie scribbles down RiverWalker on the same piece of papyrus paper. Jul 19 19:56:28 barrel history > all Jul 19 19:56:53 my barrels are unused so far Jul 19 19:57:05 The idea is to make as many various grapes as you can in the same barrel right? Jul 19 19:57:08 then you're going to have a lot of acet to start out with Jul 19 19:57:27 <-- Ancksunamun[THL] has quit (Quit: United we stand!) Jul 19 19:58:17 I have 0 WT so that shouldn't be aproblem :) Jul 19 19:58:23 heh Jul 19 19:58:23 --> Timelord (TL@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 19:58:51 I may be able to trade some grapes with you too, Xanrag, I got some, but I'm not actively tending my vines anymore, Jul 19 19:59:01 'sure takes a while.. Jul 19 19:59:06 been about a week for mine now Jul 19 19:59:57 I have a batch of grapes that I got up to 600 concentration Jul 19 20:00:38 most of the grapes i used to get from 228 WT to 248 WT were 500+ concentration Jul 19 20:01:19 Yes, that seems the common concensus.. higher WT requires higher conc Jul 19 20:01:41 * Bindy is in Cots looking for pple with Jumping Jacks, Pinwheel, Pushups, Roundoff, Squat Thrust, Toe Touches, Windmill, Greek Bridge, Jump Split, Cat Stretch Jul 19 20:01:57 I want to do a winetasting for other newcomers, but I only have 13 glass jars, not near enough. Jul 19 20:02:10 well I'm at 167 WT Jul 19 20:02:53 Bindy: anything new since lastnight? Jul 19 20:03:01 nope Jul 19 20:03:12 oh wait. yes. RIP Jul 19 20:04:02 --> Guest (Guest@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 20:04:05 question... for the strength food recepie, it says it can get to 5k by adding iron knot and chicken, how much chicken is needed for that? Jul 19 20:04:13 N? Jul 19 20:04:21 or just a little? Jul 19 20:04:39 1 Jul 19 20:04:46 cool Jul 19 20:05:03 --- Guest is now known as Guest397068679 Jul 19 20:05:05 Haven't heard of any recipes calling for N chicken. Jul 19 20:06:39 I wouldn't think so Jul 19 20:06:45 but still, lol, couldn't hurt to make sure Jul 19 20:06:45 anyone here know of a perecious metal smelting service? Jul 19 20:06:54 or someone with many many PF's? Jul 19 20:07:02 TheDude, I could do coal smelting, for canvas Jul 19 20:07:23 thats interesting... would you trade coal for canvas? Jul 19 20:07:25 +10 str, +7 dex, not bad Jul 19 20:08:10 my 10 coal for your 1 canvas Jul 19 20:10:13 we've got 4 PF's ;) Jul 19 20:10:41 why do you ask Dude ? Jul 19 20:17:59 <-- assasssin has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 20:19:34 --- Igoka is now known as Igoka|Away Jul 19 20:20:44 lol the SWG modellers had fun Jul 19 20:20:54 the mineral mining station (medium miner) Jul 19 20:20:56 looks like Jul 19 20:20:57 errr Jul 19 20:21:08 a sort of giant metal shaft that moves in and out of the ground Jul 19 20:21:19 --> Marisis (Marisis@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 20:21:44 bah.. barley just doesn't make sense to me... Jul 19 20:21:46 lol Jul 19 20:22:47 yeah, I think it's time for some SWG Jul 19 20:22:51 atitd = stupid right now Jul 19 20:23:12 barley is a PITA. no matter how good you are. Jul 19 20:23:17 pretty profitible though Jul 19 20:23:19 it's just stupid... Jul 19 20:23:37 it's not logical. I mean, I get a weed, do what i'm supposed to, half of it goes away, but the rest stays there Jul 19 20:23:43 and I can't get rid of it Jul 19 20:24:25 I just want to grow 1000 so I can offline it Jul 19 20:24:40 its not worthwhile Jul 19 20:24:46 offline barley sucks ass Jul 19 20:24:54 offline barley is like 10/hour or something silly like that. Jul 19 20:25:04 thats like 1 beers a day Jul 19 20:25:08 2* Jul 19 20:25:10 even if you are "great" you still need to sacrifice a good portion of beds Jul 19 20:25:27 so how do you know when to just yank the bed? Jul 19 20:25:48 when the weeds become more annoying than the time it takes to plant another. Jul 19 20:25:59 hehe Jul 19 20:26:19 wow, I have 4k honey... Jul 19 20:26:26 this of course varies for different people, but usually equates to "look, weeds, *yank*" Jul 19 20:27:45 do we know how fast barley grows? Jul 19 20:28:00 like how long it takes to go from 1 yeild to 2 yield Jul 19 20:28:50 nice KM, that's 200 servings of +perc food Jul 19 20:28:52 Takes about 1 minute to grow a bed to full harvest if you don't get any weeds. Jul 19 20:29:03 wait, 800 servings :) Jul 19 20:29:06 no, 200 Jul 19 20:29:27 I grow 8 beds at a time, and harvest anything with weeds. Jul 19 20:29:38 that's a good idea Jul 19 20:29:50 So I get 3-4 barley from the weed beds Jul 19 20:29:59 i grow 2 beds, harvest whenever the -water and -fert show up at the same time Jul 19 20:30:00 And 30 from lucky ones Jul 19 20:30:09 About 1 in 6 beds goes to full harvest without any weeds. Jul 19 20:30:21 only 4k? I've got 6.6k honey ;) Jul 19 20:30:26 if a bed has no weeds, and the fert+water is cranked, its like 50-60 seconds until its done. Jul 19 20:30:59 Aye. I don't have any problem growing barley. Jul 19 20:31:04 Cuz I don't care about the weeds. Jul 19 20:31:07 its like bangng your head on a wall. it feels good to stop :) Jul 19 20:31:18 yeah, I haven't been doing my apiaries in the last... 7 days or so Jul 19 20:31:24 --- ArmEagle is now known as ArmEagle|afk Jul 19 20:31:27 I average about 1 barley per fertz Jul 19 20:31:58 --> DMGS (dole@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 20:32:08 Blarg! Jul 19 20:32:20 i can grow barley for about....20 minutes max. Jul 19 20:32:39 always get frustrated. Jul 19 20:33:35 I fail to see the frusteration in growing barley. Jul 19 20:35:33 the easiest way is just to plant 6-8 beds at a time and keep 'em full water/fert, fertilizer's cheap. Jul 19 20:35:44 S'a right. Jul 19 20:35:48 wow, that was easy :) Jul 19 20:35:59 and if ya got easy access to toadskin, throw on some weed killer when ya start just fer lafs. Jul 19 20:36:04 10 beds, 61 barley Jul 19 20:36:07 much easier :) Jul 19 20:36:24 --> MYodaWork (yoda@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 20:36:34 Costs too much. Carp is cheap. Jul 19 20:36:40 I'd rather replant. Jul 19 20:36:40 yep Jul 19 20:37:26 My problem is it takes a lot of attention to run that many beds and constantly replant them. Jul 19 20:37:58 S'a total macro bait problem. Jul 19 20:39:56 --> Dreamr (Dreamr@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 20:39:57 <-- Khamenes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 20:41:02 --> assasssin (assasssin[@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 20:41:07 ok, this is fun now Jul 19 20:41:25 He's cured! :P Jul 19 20:41:39 *I* cant even see all the weeds sometimes. Jul 19 20:41:50 --> Silvanis (silvanis_s@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 20:41:51 that would be one heck of a macro ;) Jul 19 20:42:03 Who cares about the weeds? Jul 19 20:42:06 Harvest after a minute. Jul 19 20:43:00 --> ur (winter@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 20:45:17 <-- assasssin has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 20:45:53 <-- XanragQuaashie has quit (Quit: ) Jul 19 20:47:26 * Bindy is in Cots looking for pple with Jumping Jacks, Pinwheel, Pushups, Roundoff, Squat Thrust, Toe Touches, Windmill, Greek Bridge, Jump Split, Cat Stretch Jul 19 20:47:50 <-- Taharqy (mix@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 19 20:47:53 thank you all for help with barley Jul 19 20:47:56 I now understand Jul 19 20:49:35 --> Jaolen-downstairs (Jaolen@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 20:51:04 --> assasssin (assasssin[@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 20:52:17 how's the crowd in Sinai? Or RP? Jul 19 20:52:53 probably close to 5% in most places Jul 19 20:53:14 sigh Jul 19 20:53:28 just curious... how many waypoints does everyone have? Jul 19 20:53:35 7. Jul 19 20:53:44 Seven Jul 19 20:53:47 7 Jul 19 20:54:00 Siete Jul 19 20:54:06 five Jul 19 20:54:09 --> Taharqy (mix@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 20:54:25 is #7 worth the Large Sapph, you think? Jul 19 20:54:32 Oh yeah. Jul 19 20:54:37 yes it is :D Jul 19 20:54:43 Unless you got something else to spend it on. W :P Jul 19 20:55:03 <-- assasssin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 20:55:57 #7 is the huge ruby right?? Jul 19 20:56:19 I already got the huge ruby one, lol Jul 19 20:56:21 aye Jul 19 20:56:26 its worth a large sapphire for sure, but that HR is crazy! Jul 19 20:56:39 #8 can be acquired through mentor points Jul 19 20:56:39 <-- Jaolen-downstairs has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 20:56:40 10,000TN, 12,000TN??? Jul 19 20:56:50 <-- TpcT has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 20:56:52 What else you gonna spend one on? Jul 19 20:58:27 personally I see the Large Sapph to be much bigger of a deal... its far more useful Jul 19 20:58:29 HR isn't so bad, we had them for the whole guild before LS Jul 19 20:58:36 <-- Jaolen has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 20:58:38 a huge ruby is pretty much useless other than that, isn't it? Jul 19 20:58:44 Camp deco Jul 19 20:59:00 (answer: yep) Jul 19 20:59:20 how many mentor points for Nav#8? Jul 19 21:00:14 Good question... anyone near SLead? Jul 19 21:00:25 no, which is why I asked :p Jul 19 21:00:34 --> Gallahan (ramses10@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:00:34 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to Gallahan Jul 19 21:00:36 :p Jul 19 21:00:40 400 barley.. Jul 19 21:00:50 14 points Jul 19 21:00:51 how much do you need to grow chickens? Jul 19 21:01:00 "homeward bound" Jul 19 21:01:04 about 400 per pen per day for 20 checkens Jul 19 21:01:09 ouch Jul 19 21:01:22 yikes. gonna have to seriously mentor for that. Jul 19 21:01:40 I want tenure first, lol Jul 19 21:01:49 THEN waypoint #8 Jul 19 21:03:40 so chickens are stupid then... Jul 19 21:03:42 good deal Jul 19 21:05:35 --> Khamenes (billaben@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:07:28 <-- Kem|away (neild@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 19 21:07:32 --> Kem|away (neild@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:07:34 * Bindy is in Cots looking for pple with Jumping Jacks, Pinwheel, Pushups, Roundoff, Squat Thrust, Toe Touches, Windmill, Greek Bridge, Jump Split, Cat Stretch Jul 19 21:09:15 I do love me my unknown errors, yessir Jul 19 21:10:37 I'm rather partial to my occasional inability to connect that doesn't even call itself an error. Jul 19 21:11:08 Them's good errorin' Jul 19 21:13:17 chock fullo errory goodness. Jul 19 21:14:15 and how Jul 19 21:14:22 hey, anyone got any data on %age of rods saved when boring for limestone blocks due to perception? Jul 19 21:15:03 you mean focus? Jul 19 21:15:11 no perception for saving ;) Jul 19 21:15:21 no, perception, you can save the rod with higher percep when you hit rock... Jul 19 21:15:36 ah Jul 19 21:15:39 well, as the focus receipe I used was -perception... ;) Jul 19 21:15:42 not much :) Jul 19 21:16:09 heh, that would hamper data collected along those lines, wouldn't it? Jul 19 21:16:57 4 fer 4 saved with perception 4 now, was getting about 1 in 5-10 with 3. Jul 19 21:17:21 i was doing it with per 5 and wasn't saving many Jul 19 21:17:21 cool Jul 19 21:17:44 how many rods are usually needed for a PotP? Jul 19 21:18:23 14 Jul 19 21:18:27 if your lucky Jul 19 21:18:28 ;) Jul 19 21:18:46 200 Jul 19 21:18:52 if you're very unlucky. Jul 19 21:18:56 i'd say 70ish Jul 19 21:19:42 hm Jul 19 21:19:58 actually if ya get percep7 or use a high percep/focus recepie 14 might be right. Jul 19 21:20:01 --> Oedipa (Oedipa@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:21:21 :-/ well my base percep is 4 now... lol, Jul 19 21:21:48 That should be '200, if your name is Dors' Jul 19 21:23:25 well thats not nearly as bad as i thought it'd be Jul 19 21:30:51 <-- Khamenes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 21:31:17 --> Osmirik (nobody@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:36:16 --> Zahra (Zahra@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:38:12 say, how many pple frequent the Farthest Star public camp? Jul 19 21:41:09 hmm, I thought Sinai unlocked Gearbox also? Jul 19 21:41:33 yup Jul 19 21:41:42 there's no blinky on .info Jul 19 21:41:57 Currently hanging arond at my camp, available for Acro and other stuff. 787 5776 Jul 19 21:42:03 ill remind caeday about it Jul 19 21:42:06 caedar* Jul 19 21:42:22 * Garan[ZT] writes a petition to rename him Caeday :) Jul 19 21:43:02 how many moves, lore? Jul 19 21:44:32 --- Gormengast is now known as Gormengast|away Jul 19 21:45:52 --> Bellah (bellah@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:46:00 <-- Bellah[SOT] has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 21:46:03 --- Bellah is now known as Bellah[SOT] Jul 19 21:46:47 --- ArmEagle|afk is now known as ArmEagle Jul 19 21:46:55 <-- Garan[ZT] has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 21:47:54 blah, making canvas takes so long Jul 19 21:48:11 --> Yeshua (joel@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:48:55 holy hell Jul 19 21:49:00 *sees new Xenosaga II Screenshots* Jul 19 21:49:00 what? Jul 19 21:49:03 Scion all grown up n.n Jul 19 21:49:17 where? Jul 19 21:49:22 www.gamefaqs.com Jul 19 21:49:26 Look for "Xenosaga II Site opens" Jul 19 21:49:37 anyone living in Razor's Edge online atm? Jul 19 21:49:49 * Bindy is in Cots/Razor's Edge looking for pple with Jumping Jacks, Pinwheel, Pushups, Roundoff, Squat Thrust, Toe Touches, Windmill, Greek Bridge, Jump Split, Cat Stretch Jul 19 21:49:56 O-O Jul 19 21:50:00 We're a bit out of the way n.n; Jul 19 21:50:27 <-- Zahra has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 21:50:52 Meeting in 4 minutes, #Egypt-community Jul 19 21:51:35 Meeting for/what/about...? Jul 19 21:51:43 hmm, a beetle garden here in CotS Jul 19 21:52:08 Are Hardwood Obelisks on timer yet? Jul 19 21:52:31 do not belive so, it takes a whole hella lot of gold Jul 19 21:52:48 hey what would be you guys responce to a new science? (science of metal) Jul 19 21:52:58 *magenitics Jul 19 21:53:33 --> Khamenes (billaben@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:54:19 <-- curtkram-17 has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 21:54:28 the meeting is about cooperation with research Jul 19 21:56:44 --> Gimli_ (gimli@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 21:57:39 --- Gallahan is now known as Galla|afkish Jul 19 21:57:53 --- Galla|afkish removes channel operator status from Galla|afkish Jul 19 21:57:53 --- Galla|afkish gives voice to Galla|afkish Jul 19 21:57:53 blah. Jul 19 21:57:55 what the heck? Jul 19 21:58:08 Yasunori Mitsuda isn't doing the music for xenosaga 2? Jul 19 21:58:13 ok, I officially no longer care. Jul 19 21:59:32 --> XanragQuaashie (ask@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:01:08 --- Somebob|Sleep is now known as Somebob Jul 19 22:02:09 --- Bindy is now known as BindyZzz Jul 19 22:02:16 5am time to sleep :p Jul 19 22:02:43 yikes.. even further east. Jul 19 22:02:50 11PM here.. Jul 19 22:02:58 --> Dyant|AFK (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:03:25 4pm here Jul 19 22:03:51 hola Jul 19 22:07:42 <-- Corwitep has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 22:10:17 * Osmirik just found two sand spore mushrooms :) Jul 19 22:10:27 --> Elm (Elm@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:13:44 --> Hyp (Hyp@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:14:05 so do you always get 20 barley for a full harvesty? Jul 19 22:14:18 i get 30 Jul 19 22:14:22 base is 10 Jul 19 22:14:23 --> Alanine (Lyssabits@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:14:26 or is it spot dependent? Jul 19 22:14:31 oh really? how did you get to 30? Jul 19 22:14:40 is there lvl 2 greenthumb? Jul 19 22:14:46 prentice of worship adds 10 to harvest Jul 19 22:15:16 anyone want to get married? :P Jul 19 22:15:20 ok Jul 19 22:15:23 no, n/m! mule time! Jul 19 22:15:33 to YOU? nfw Jul 19 22:15:36 hehe... "KnightmareBiatch" Jul 19 22:15:40 --- TheDude[OWRH] is now known as TheDudette Jul 19 22:15:42 ;) Jul 19 22:15:44 :P Jul 19 22:15:48 --- TheDudette is now known as TheDude[OWRH] Jul 19 22:16:03 <-- Slyfeind has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 22:17:00 <-- BindyZzz has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 22:18:01 --- Knightmare is now known as Lamia Jul 19 22:25:39 youre making a mule just to get married? Jul 19 22:25:54 Isn't that the standard procedure? Mail-order brides.. Jul 19 22:26:12 trust mee that isnt the first onee Jul 19 22:26:18 ]I know Jul 19 22:26:22 as long as it is a second PAID account it is cool Jul 19 22:26:29 and that way you get second set of crystals too Jul 19 22:26:31 can you even marry a trial? Jul 19 22:26:38 But at least make sure she gives you tug/roc/hekets ranks and crystals Jul 19 22:26:41 need 30 hours in egypt ot marry Jul 19 22:26:54 and second trial is bannable if not payed last i knew Jul 19 22:27:05 <-- Zilmer (Zilmer@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 19 22:27:11 So knightmare is technically bannable atm? Jul 19 22:27:23 nope he payed Jul 19 22:27:23 yes :) Jul 19 22:27:27 awwwww Jul 19 22:27:38 hee warped in and scared 2 GMs Jul 19 22:27:39 Is there any uni in particular where conflict shrine construction is being worked on? Jul 19 22:27:54 --- Kem|away is now known as Kem Jul 19 22:28:02 guess turnabout is fair play everyonce in awhile Jul 19 22:28:13 RP has about 100 gold already Jul 19 22:30:10 --> Corwitep (corwin@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:30:18 no, i'm making a mule to have a mule Jul 19 22:30:26 100 Gold, or 100 gold wire? Jul 19 22:30:30 for offline chores, crystals... etc Jul 19 22:30:36 Gold. Jul 19 22:30:38 gold Jul 19 22:30:44 It's a pricy tech. Jul 19 22:30:54 Well it is a Test Passer Jul 19 22:31:01 5 king's tomb turquoise...ouch. Jul 19 22:31:16 I just cut 12 cuttable turquoise looking for some, didn't get a single one. Jul 19 22:31:20 no more gold mines found yet? Jul 19 22:31:33 --- Igoka|Away is now known as Igoka Jul 19 22:31:40 Kem, your festival tool is awesome :D Jul 19 22:31:41 The gold isn't going to be the hard part. Jul 19 22:31:49 Thanks, Igoka. I hope people use it. :> Jul 19 22:32:00 --- Lamia is now known as Knightmare Jul 19 22:32:17 you scared petis and i knightmare Jul 19 22:32:18 I wrote it while watching the water colon, hoping for more garnets and amethysts to fail to turn into masks. :> Jul 19 22:32:22 sorry :) Jul 19 22:32:33 I spawned in like VoK or something Jul 19 22:32:44 you were the first I thought of to warp to that would probably be around my camp Jul 19 22:32:44 * Kem wanna pon^H^H^Hopticon. Jul 19 22:32:52 and, since you're the nicest person I know, I warped to you :) Jul 19 22:33:13 * Bellah[SOT] blushes Jul 19 22:33:36 and there, now i'm paid :P so you can be nice to me now Jul 19 22:33:57 sorry i seemed rude. you realy scared mee and i am like WHO is this? Jul 19 22:34:05 hehe Jul 19 22:34:09 tis ok Jul 19 22:34:32 tell petis I want to acro with him ;) I only need 1 facet of bike Jul 19 22:34:56 i have bike Jul 19 22:35:59 btw, Lamia = an evil spirit who abducts and murders children in Greek Mythology. Jul 19 22:36:02 so be careful :P Jul 19 22:36:20 * Bellah[SOT] keeps her children away from the game Jul 19 22:37:12 --> Zephenia (zeph@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:38:40 I have bike, Knight Jul 19 22:38:43 come teach me ;) Jul 19 22:41:45 --> otter (otter@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:43:21 <-- Merloth has quit (Quit: ) Jul 19 22:44:32 --> Caedar[SOT] (dewaine@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:44:33 --- Caedar[SOT] is now known as Guest805078246 Jul 19 22:44:36 Doh. Jul 19 22:44:48 --> Sadeh (amiller@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:45:40 --- Guest805078246 is now known as Caedar[SOT] Jul 19 22:48:02 Who would win in a fight, Dow Jones or a jar of Almonds? Jul 19 22:49:02 almonds Jul 19 22:49:05 they've got nuts! (FINDME) Jul 19 22:49:22 is RP dead yet ? Jul 19 22:49:41 zombies started sprouting from the ground ? Jul 19 22:49:56 No zombies :( Jul 19 22:49:58 has Amira banned any miners ? :) Jul 19 22:50:21 can someone /tell JemGirl and say that I'm lagging :P Jul 19 22:50:40 i tell u, if i was amira i'd have banned freakshow last night Jul 19 22:50:53 haha Jul 19 22:51:04 Freakshow isnt nearly as bad as Pameow was Jul 19 22:51:07 and that's why you're not Amira :) Jul 19 22:51:17 * Osmirik has /tell-ed jemgirl Jul 19 22:51:33 is i was DP people would be scared Jul 19 22:51:38 She completely refused to stop Jul 19 22:51:46 Igoka: She says "no problem will hang out" Jul 19 22:52:07 --> Slyfeind (slyfeind@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:52:44 <-- Khamenes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 22:52:55 * Umopepisdn wanders up to the pyro lab with some magnesium. yay. Jul 19 22:53:10 yay Umo! Jul 19 22:53:43 actually, I almost hope I dont find anything Jul 19 22:53:48 time to login.. Jul 19 22:53:51 I think demand for mag needs to be as low as possible Jul 19 22:53:57 --> Khamenes (billaben@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 22:54:14 free sulfer water at the mag mines! Jul 19 22:54:15 dont waste your time using mag on the lab umo Jul 19 22:54:21 --> LeatherRaven (PCZRhianna@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 22:54:22 teppy said violet and orange arent in yet Jul 19 22:54:30 and we know red and blue were possible before mag Jul 19 22:54:31 Blue and red are :P Jul 19 22:54:36 Ok... Jul 19 22:54:40 Cool Jul 19 22:54:42 true Jul 19 22:54:50 red and blue are in the core metals somehow Jul 19 22:54:57 "somehow" Jul 19 22:54:58 First opticon winner announced today. If you haven't voted, go and do so ;) Jul 19 22:54:59 I am worried they involve sulfur. Jul 19 22:55:02 hi has anyone got any tips on catching rabbits? Jul 19 22:55:07 i was thinking about that Jul 19 22:55:10 i'm sure they dont Jul 19 22:55:14 Why? Jul 19 22:55:19 but theres a nagging feeling one might Jul 19 22:55:24 What people don't know is that sulfur can be substituted for fuel, oxidizer, *and* binder. Jul 19 22:55:28 I'm afraid that we should have found them by now Jul 19 22:55:40 <-- Khamenes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 22:55:45 k Jul 19 22:55:53 we let SF loose on a hill of turqs Jul 19 22:55:59 should get something good :) Jul 19 22:56:02 Unfortunately, it's unlikely that if there is a simple substitution like that, it wont work with regular recipes Jul 19 22:56:23 I've been putting carrots down but nothing yet Jul 19 22:56:24 so we would have to guess at which ingredient it might replace, and then rerun the core metal tests with that. :/ Jul 19 22:56:32 Which is going to SUCK. Jul 19 22:57:31 <-- Marisis has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 22:58:46 Let's just give up. Jul 19 22:59:11 That's the only solution Jul 19 23:00:35 <-- LeatherRaven has quit (Quit: ) Jul 19 23:01:04 <-- Faber|EAS|2 has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 23:01:22 <-- Hyp has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 19 23:01:44 --> HawkMaster (HawkMaster@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:02:56 Hurrah! Alphabetical sort! Jul 19 23:03:04 boo 5 minute rollback Jul 19 23:03:07 Boo! Rollback! Jul 19 23:03:13 rollback? Jul 19 23:03:18 possibly Jul 19 23:03:18 does that mean data will not be saved? Jul 19 23:03:29 basically means the next 5 minutes could get wiped Jul 19 23:03:34 teppy is updating core code in order to make chests be alphabetically sorted. If it works, cool. If it breaks, 5 min rollback. Jul 19 23:03:44 --> Tomossan (Tomossan@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:03:46 hihi Jul 19 23:03:49 Incoming Crash. Jul 19 23:03:50 more likely it's Nekhmet Jul 19 23:03:55 man Jul 19 23:03:57 Teppy always says it's him Jul 19 23:03:59 my guild is so rich :-D Jul 19 23:04:00 aren't they already sorted? Jul 19 23:04:08 anyone wanna joina rich guild? Jul 19 23:04:17 we have an opticon :D Jul 19 23:04:22 I thought they were alphabetical too Jul 19 23:05:10 They are, sort of. Jul 19 23:05:26 no crash, phew! Jul 19 23:05:35 Mushrooms are sorted as if they are "Mushrooms, " currently Jul 19 23:05:40 gah.. too.. hot.. Jul 19 23:05:47 So Iron Know mushrooms come after iron ore Jul 19 23:06:06 That's how it used to work Jul 19 23:06:07 oh Jul 19 23:06:17 Sadeh: and they still are. Jul 19 23:06:24 Female rabbits were sorted as if they were "rabbits, female" Jul 19 23:06:25 i like the old way better Jul 19 23:06:26 I just took and stashed everything. Jul 19 23:06:29 That way I can look at all my mushrooms at once Jul 19 23:06:30 I'd rather see a fix for "driedpapyrus" and "smallbarrels" to "dried papyrus" and "small barrels" Jul 19 23:06:40 btw, how do you stash all? Jul 19 23:06:41 so what changed, then, Brant? Jul 19 23:06:42 Or even "Dried Papyrus" Jul 19 23:06:48 Use Browse Contents Jul 19 23:07:24 I tried using Browse Contents and doing a take/stash, nothing. Then I tried using Take...Everything and put the items back using the Browse Contents, no change there either. Jul 19 23:07:27 Let me try putting them back manually. Jul 19 23:07:33 grmbl Jul 19 23:07:38 my webserver seems to have crashed.. Jul 19 23:07:53 an improvement for the paint chest at least Jul 19 23:07:55 * XanragQuaashie whacks the evil comp, even though it is miles away. Jul 19 23:08:21 Nope, putting the items back manually didn't change it either, mushrooms are still clumped together. Jul 19 23:08:24 Using Browse Contents, the paint chest already alphabetized thins Jul 19 23:08:30 Let me go check the paint. Jul 19 23:08:54 Citrus and honey were also already alphabetized under Browse Contents Jul 19 23:09:16 paint is still not sorted in the Take...Paint... menu Jul 19 23:09:23 but it IS sorted in Browse Contents Jul 19 23:09:40 It always was, with the exception of Black always appearing on top, strangely enough Jul 19 23:09:48 <-- Elm (Elm@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 19 23:09:55 Yes, that's what I'm seeing, black at the top. Jul 19 23:10:40 what comes before black paint wise? Jul 19 23:10:42 amber? Jul 19 23:10:53 grr Jul 19 23:10:55 Aquamarine Jul 19 23:11:00 ahhh Jul 19 23:11:04 i should turn that off for highliting Jul 19 23:11:56 --> nepharis (nepharis@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:12:18 exit Jul 19 23:12:21 <-- nepharis has quit (Quit: BitchX has bite! (Just ask Mike Tyson!)) Jul 19 23:12:32 My personal chest wish is to enable ctrl selecting in the Browse Contents menu Jul 19 23:12:44 But I wouldn't want to see that in preference to real content Jul 19 23:12:49 weren't chests always sorted alphabetically? Jul 19 23:13:18 Some things were, some things weren't Jul 19 23:13:37 Weird, we don't have any cabbage seeds :/ Jul 19 23:13:45 Hm. This is the first time I've heard of Windows CE. Jul 19 23:14:04 That's so not Microsoft. :P Jul 19 23:14:05 Now, if Beetles were to be sorted alpha in the Browse Contents menu, that would be nifty. Jul 19 23:14:10 whay? Jul 19 23:14:38 Knight: Do you know what Windows CE is? Jul 19 23:14:52 yes Jul 19 23:14:57 it's the handheld version of windows Jul 19 23:15:24 for like XBox and such Jul 19 23:15:31 theres a c compiler, and pocketquake for it! Jul 19 23:15:36 yep Jul 19 23:15:39 (dreamcast was CE too) Jul 19 23:16:00 It's also supposedly semi-opensource now. Jul 19 23:16:21 hehe, I just built a guild house Jul 19 23:16:22 fun fun Jul 19 23:17:49 And I think I'm disconnected. Jul 19 23:18:17 Dreamcast was optionally CE. Almost nobody used it. Jul 19 23:18:40 (Mainly because it ate several MB of RAM, and used up about 10% of the CPU, even when doing nothing.) Jul 19 23:21:58 <-- Caedar[SOT] has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 23:22:31 <-- Corwitep has quit (Quit: Client exiting) Jul 19 23:22:53 lol pocketquake Jul 19 23:24:19 Windows CE isnt really used for pocket devices anymore, BTW Jul 19 23:24:30 Some forked version of it called PocketPC is Jul 19 23:24:36 CE is still alive in embedded systems though Jul 19 23:24:47 That's what wooden stakes are for. Jul 19 23:24:55 It's the only way to make sure Windows CE is dead. Jul 19 23:25:19 Chu Chu Rocket for DC was, in reality, nothing more than a flash movie running under WinCE Jul 19 23:25:42 rumors tell of a 'demo' that was released onto the web that they forgot to cripple, so you could basically download the game and play it on your pc Jul 19 23:25:52 pocketpc is just the market name for ce 3.0 Jul 19 23:26:03 --> Dyan (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:26:04 <-- Dyant|AFK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 23:26:31 hmm.. seems one of my neigbors is quitting.. unfortunately the wrong one. Jul 19 23:26:32 I dont think so... CE 3 existed for embedded systems... though I could be wrong Jul 19 23:26:46 I'm almost sure.. let me check Jul 19 23:27:46 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) CE 3.0.9348 (Build 9351) says my PDA with PocketPC Jul 19 23:28:19 PocketPC2002 is.. ehm.. I dunno, don't have one Jul 19 23:30:00 <-- brightshadow[theopolis] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 19 23:34:16 Conflict party in RP at 550, 3275--come one come all Jul 19 23:34:22 sw of UWorship by the SArch Jul 19 23:37:38 <-- [OE]inles (kashhjfj@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #ATITD Jul 19 23:39:24 --- peer-sleep is now known as peer Jul 19 23:39:59 one of the mag mines disappeared after it collapsed Jul 19 23:40:17 Heh Jul 19 23:41:16 --> RollinDutchMasters (RollDutch@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:42:23 2 mag mines gone now Jul 19 23:43:13 Can you rebuild them in the same spot? Jul 19 23:43:22 I don't know Jul 19 23:43:43 is taking the magnesium just never going to be an issue for some? Jul 19 23:44:26 Your kidding somee people are STILL mining there? Jul 19 23:44:29 * XanragQuaashie predicts the next ech will require 5000 magnesium to open. Jul 19 23:44:34 tech Jul 19 23:44:51 That will probably kill the whole area.... Jul 19 23:45:17 the last 2 mines had sulfer water Jul 19 23:45:33 they either dont care, or dont understand Jul 19 23:45:58 It should be interesting if Liberty Bridge dies from the expansion of waste Jul 19 23:46:26 you're kidding right? Jul 19 23:46:32 Liberty bridge isn't that near Jul 19 23:46:32 the last 2 mines allowd us to observe that the number of people and the rate affected the "moat" effect Jul 19 23:46:47 with 3 people and no food the water didn't appear at all Jul 19 23:46:52 >3 and it did Jul 19 23:46:58 and very quickly too Jul 19 23:47:12 so it appears that slow pulling is the key here Jul 19 23:47:19 semed pretty smart to just be code to me. Jul 19 23:47:38 pretty hard to have an invisible GM there 24/7 though Jul 19 23:47:39 there are more strange rocks appearing too Jul 19 23:47:44 and flames Jul 19 23:47:51 like the guide me home flames Jul 19 23:47:51 might be a combination thing Jul 19 23:47:52 It isnt an invisible GM Jul 19 23:47:54 <-- Rehpic|BotS has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 23:48:01 Just some invisible daemon or something that registers as a player Jul 19 23:48:04 it is there 24/7 though Jul 19 23:48:35 so your strategy is to outsmart it, and not have it spread? Jul 19 23:49:41 <-- RollinDutchMasters has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 19 23:50:00 magnesium spot is gone, it's just dirt now :( Jul 19 23:50:32 Umopepisdn: What mkes you think it's something registered as a player at all? Jul 19 23:50:46 Well I guess that'll put a stop to the pollution :P Jul 19 23:50:56 --- Devalin is now known as Khepry Jul 19 23:51:02 im sure the "code" carefully moved around assassin yesterday too.... Jul 19 23:51:13 one of the mines just reappeared by itself Jul 19 23:51:16 you'll note from the fact that my nick isnt going guest, i am actually Khepry Jul 19 23:51:16 good thing khepry is registered with nickserv eh? Jul 19 23:51:23 <-- otter has quit (Quit: To be,is to be percieved) Jul 19 23:51:31 and since i'm pissed off with the gm's messing with my event Jul 19 23:51:41 i'm here to tell you the glorious story of khepry Jul 19 23:51:47 --> Caedar[SOT] (dewaine@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:51:59 some people cant leave well alone Jul 19 23:52:09 Back once again. Jul 19 23:52:18 * Umopepisdn leans forward and listens. Jul 19 23:52:21 Khepry was given a thin magnesium vein, to ensure no other players could find it Jul 19 23:52:24 * Umopepisdn passed out popcorn Jul 19 23:52:29 you wont be able to find any so no point looking Jul 19 23:52:38 theres code in place to prevent people accidentlly getting any Jul 19 23:52:52 the idea was to push players into passing a law to take the mines off khepry Jul 19 23:53:04 so lets ban khepry Jul 19 23:53:05 thus the players would fall into a trap by the stranger Jul 19 23:53:08 --> RollinDutchMasters (RollDutch@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:53:12 --- Galla|afkish is now known as Gallahan Jul 19 23:53:15 Haha Jul 19 23:53:19 * Knightmare drafts a petition. Jul 19 23:53:26 I thought about it ;) Jul 19 23:53:34 i'm doing it right now Jul 19 23:53:42 unfortunately a gm who knew khepry was an events character (me) let slip khepry had gm flags Jul 19 23:53:45 god knows why Jul 19 23:53:57 Meh Jul 19 23:53:58 so we had to act quickly to fix the situation Jul 19 23:54:01 doh Jul 19 23:54:10 we decided a nice fight over public mines would be good Jul 19 23:54:13 Heh. I knew that it being slipped and the event happening were related. Jul 19 23:54:14 and it worked well Jul 19 23:54:23 it become the best event this game has had Jul 19 23:54:26 so will all mag mines do this pollution thing? Jul 19 23:54:28 thanks go to otter for helping with all the land Jul 19 23:54:30 stuff Jul 19 23:54:31 --> curtkram-17 (curtkram20@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:54:35 it became the only even this game has had :) Jul 19 23:54:37 --- RollinDutchMasters is now known as TheSmokapotamus Jul 19 23:54:37 they pollute no more than normal mines Jul 19 23:54:38 event* Jul 19 23:54:48 err that's not true. Jul 19 23:54:50 k thanks Jul 19 23:54:52 Taharqy: What about the PotDO? Jul 19 23:54:54 it is true Jul 19 23:54:57 --> Reuben[sphinx] (sam@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 19 23:54:58 I can't say I'd call it the best event, myself. Jul 19 23:54:59 What was the trap of the stranger? Jul 19 23:54:59 This event was better Jul 19 23:55:02 the pollution was due to the extreme working of the mines Jul 19 23:55:16 so all mines will do that? Jul 19 23:55:17 hte landscape changes where gm driven to highlight the effect Jul 19 23:55:31 it all worked really well Jul 19 23:55:33 i was very happy Jul 19 23:55:39 and was considering ways to run more events Jul 19 23:55:40 Bah, don't spoil things like that. Much more fun when we speculate. :> Jul 19 23:55:44 however, some meddling gm's got bored Jul 19 23:55:55 and decided they couldnt leave u guys alone to work things out on your own Jul 19 23:56:09 so they decided to keep messing with the event i had designed, without evne asking me Jul 19 23:56:10 or teppy Jul 19 23:56:17 hm. Jul 19 23:56:18 so i'm totally fed up with it all Jul 19 23:56:22 not GM abuse again?? :( Jul 19 23:56:23 Oh? In what way Khepry? Jul 19 23:56:23 Politics are fun. Jul 19 23:56:38 their moving mines, messing around etc Jul 19 23:56:45 yeah, this was entertaining Jul 19 23:56:46 the event was meant to end last night Jul 19 23:56:52 but they couldnt leave it alone Jul 19 23:57:01 yeah I thought the gm's were having a good time Jul 19 23:57:12 --- Khepry is now known as Devalin Jul 19 23:57:16 some "event" Jul 19 23:57:19 Nice. Jul 19 23:57:35 Hahaha. Jul 19 23:57:40 --> ithilra[BEDOUINS] (earwin@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 19 23:57:52 so nothing much else is going to happen now? Jul 19 23:58:08 What was supposed to happen Jul 19 23:58:08 well at the moment i'm disgusted Jul 19 23:58:09 people are gonna kill themselves looking for magnesium Jul 19 23:58:16 where did other GM's intervene? Jul 19 23:58:17 i'm not sure i want any association with atitd anymore Jul 19 23:58:33 i know i said the site would stay up, but i'm very tempted to walk away totatlly Jul 19 23:58:46 Devalin, if you do.... Jul 19 23:58:47 we spent weeks working on that Jul 19 23:58:51 building up khepry Jul 19 23:58:57 Good roleplaying on it too Jul 19 23:59:08 Hm.' Jul 19 23:59:10 and a few people who couldnt keep their mouth shut or control themselves have tainted the whole thing Jul 19 23:59:15 I thought it was fun. Jul 19 23:59:21 yeah, great job playing a tightfisted megnesium mogul Jul 19 23:59:29 I have to say, that is very cool that Khepry was roleplayed. Had me fooled :) Jul 19 23:59:40 Me too. I thought for sure Khepry was adopted after the fact Jul 19 23:59:44 yeah Kep was a good character. Jul 19 23:59:45 I think the...Mafia = Khepry stuff was best. Jul 19 23:59:49 Of course, I didn'thave much contact with it all. Jul 19 23:59:53 So who is Khepry really? o_o Jul 19 23:59:53 mafia almost fell into our hands Jul 19 23:59:57 devalin was khepry? no surprise, heh Jul 19 23:59:59 was Mafia a GM too? Jul 20 00:00:00 Lore, Khepry IS devalin Jul 20 00:00:02 we were hoping he would actually grief the mines Jul 20 00:00:05 <-- Igoka has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 00:00:05 x_X Jul 20 00:00:06 I can state that with absolute certainty Jul 20 00:00:14 I thought the whole event was pretty fantastic Jul 20 00:00:22 I agree, it was a great event Jul 20 00:00:26 yes, very well done Jul 20 00:00:26 So you're not really playing SWG? n.n Jul 20 00:00:29 But what was SUPPOSED To happen Jul 20 00:00:30 So Dev, will the sand keep destroying stuff? Jul 20 00:00:42 <-- Tomossan has quit (Quit: ) Jul 20 00:00:44 I mean, where did it go wrong? Jul 20 00:00:46 well, ive learned from experience to take most of the stuff dev says with a grain of salt ;-) Jul 20 00:00:47 if the gm's get bored Jul 20 00:00:47 yes Jul 20 00:00:48 He probably is. Being Khepry isn't all that hard you know. He was on one hour a day and never talked to anyone Jul 20 00:00:53 --> otter (otter@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:00:56 haha, true enough Jul 20 00:00:57 but kudos on the event Jul 20 00:01:06 knowing there was no follow up planned, last nights event was a complete waste Jul 20 00:01:25 or was f-ed up somewhere Jul 20 00:01:42 the GM screwing around part did become a bit obvious. Jul 20 00:01:51 yup Jul 20 00:01:51 cryptic stories are only cool if they eventually make sense :) Jul 20 00:02:04 I'm just wondering what part of what happened, wasnt supposed to happen? Jul 20 00:02:06 actually Jul 20 00:02:08 stories like that are cool Jul 20 00:02:08 the glitchy moves of the mines are alittle too much Jul 20 00:02:14 Holy hell *sees the Conflict Requirements for the Arena* Jul 20 00:02:17 until people are like "BAN EVERYONE WHO PULLS" "BAN MAGENSIUM 4 EVER YO" Jul 20 00:02:19 it got stupid real fast Jul 20 00:02:33 it was an event that people went crazy over Jul 20 00:02:33 --> Lyekka[FS] (mjh@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:02:37 yea, wheres amira anyway Jul 20 00:02:52 the "they won't do this or they'll go broke, it's bad business" stuff was annoying, but as a whole I think it was really cool Jul 20 00:02:56 <-- Dyan (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 20 00:03:00 she's over in egypt community Jul 20 00:03:06 --> Dyant (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:03:36 Devalin: I know you're probably kind of disappointed still, but I personally really appreciate what you did Jul 20 00:03:43 it was fun. Jul 20 00:03:45 Where did it all go wrong? Jul 20 00:03:47 even though I wasn't there. Jul 20 00:04:17 and pulling something like that out as a response to an accidental information leak makes it even more impressive Jul 20 00:04:31 err, out of a hat, that is Jul 20 00:04:43 Might it be too easy to become a GM then? Jul 20 00:04:46 --> Rehpic|BotS (chatzilla@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:05:08 Dyan: Yeah, but were you at all surprised? Jul 20 00:05:19 When did this leak take place? Jul 20 00:05:22 Yeah, even though I wasn't actually at the event, I loved reading about it. Jul 20 00:05:28 about 2hrs before the mine event Jul 20 00:05:37 where? Jul 20 00:05:39 IRC Jul 20 00:05:40 the issue that annoyed me wasnt the leak Jul 20 00:05:41 in ird Jul 20 00:05:42 irc Jul 20 00:05:42 hi Rehpic Jul 20 00:05:44 By good ol' Plur. Jul 20 00:05:56 hi Jul 20 00:05:57 the leak actually pushed us to a better conclusion than we thought possible Jul 20 00:06:22 actually I talked to plur this morning and told him to stop Jul 20 00:06:27 Ok Jul 20 00:06:31 What part of that event was Plur's doing Jul 20 00:06:33 conclusion? Jul 20 00:06:39 he said not only wouldn't he stop but unless we find a solution it would get much much worse Jul 20 00:06:41 And how did it derail these carefully laid plans of mules and men? Jul 20 00:06:46 plur is an in-game GM? Jul 20 00:06:51 --> Gentry (gentry@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:07:11 Of course, Smoke. Jul 20 00:07:18 I still wonder who Mafia really was. Jul 20 00:07:19 He coded the Linux client, for god's sake. *grin* Jul 20 00:07:30 So uh, are white glowers gonna become a luxury soon? Jul 20 00:07:44 Less of a luxury than they were a week ago Jul 20 00:08:13 heh dev, what did you do with all that money you made on the magnesium auctions anyway Jul 20 00:08:26 But yesterday we had hope that magnesium could be found somewhere else Jul 20 00:08:42 it might still be, later in the telling. Jul 20 00:08:48 Dyant, let me explain my prediction...Apparently Level 2's beetle award is some sort of 'super perception'. This ability lets them find certain rare minerals that only they can build mines on and they're only used for fireworks. After we get this ability, we get the fireworks test opened. Or something like that. Jul 20 00:09:01 I wonder if someone could discover uranium now by dropping a dirt mine in the right place.. doubt it a bit. Jul 20 00:09:07 Isn't fireworks already opened? Jul 20 00:09:19 yes it is ;) Jul 20 00:09:26 If that happens, that would suck Jul 20 00:09:35 Ignore the part about the test opening then. Jul 20 00:09:36 the whole mystery over the event yesterday is still pretty cool Jul 20 00:09:37 fireworks is already open :P Jul 20 00:09:44 In order to make good glowers I have to be a beetle guy as well? Jul 20 00:09:48 No.... it wouldnt be possible, if there is code in to block accidental magnesium finds, then there's code to prevent accidental uranium finds Jul 20 00:09:57 Dyant: No. Jul 20 00:09:59 The mysterious and shadowy Mafia holds Khepry's Mines of Magnesium hostage! But wait... Bigger plans are afoot? Is Khepry in league with Mafia, or does she answer to a higher, darker power? Only time... will tell. Jul 20 00:10:06 I can't donate these boards? Jul 20 00:10:09 should I call a gm? Jul 20 00:10:12 In order to find the materials yourself to make cool glowers you have to be a beetle guy. Jul 20 00:10:29 Stay tuned for next week's installment of... As The Desert Turns Jul 20 00:10:29 In order to make special honey, ytou have to be a beetle guy. Jul 20 00:10:30 Or Jul 20 00:10:32 One Telling To Live Jul 20 00:10:38 so there is anti-canvas dowsing code in to protect magnesium? Jul 20 00:10:41 Suppose it is a good way to make more people take the beetle test Jul 20 00:10:50 Caedar, still Jul 20 00:10:55 The beetle rewards fill niches. Jul 20 00:10:57 It reminds me of the guy in Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory who describes the objectives of the map at the start of the mission Jul 20 00:11:00 Yeah, what is the connection between beetles and glowers Jul 20 00:11:08 Maybe it's just me, but I hate buying ore from people Jul 20 00:11:14 It's usually a rip off Jul 20 00:11:19 I did'nt get a brick machine until I had my own source of tin Jul 20 00:11:21 It is compared to the cost of a mine Jul 20 00:11:25 Cae, why do you have to be a beetle guy? Jul 20 00:11:26 * XanragQuaashie pats his automated alum mines. Jul 20 00:11:34 Taera: Hell if I know. Jul 20 00:11:48 I just need to find a zinc one closer to home.. Jul 20 00:11:55 nananananananananananananananana BEETLE MAAAAN Jul 20 00:12:01 why, Xan Jul 20 00:12:06 Maybe because they didn't want to be mean and make it the reward for the Opticon test? Jul 20 00:12:08 personally I don't have a zinc mine and am not really interested in one Jul 20 00:12:09 Zinc is a pretty cheap ore, and you dont need much at all Jul 20 00:12:24 <-- Sadeh has quit (Quit: ) Jul 20 00:12:27 Umopepisdn: 9 hours wp time away.. yeah, I suppose.. I still have 150 ore or so left after making a ton of steel Jul 20 00:12:37 We have a couple zinc mines 24 waypoint hours away... we brought home 2K once, sold a lot of it and still havent needed to go back in 2 months Jul 20 00:12:39 as he said... its not like its real useful, and its not that expensive Jul 20 00:12:50 Yours is only 9 hours away? cool ;) Jul 20 00:12:53 Erm. I should clarify Jul 20 00:12:57 Mines 9 hours and I'm *very* happy with it Jul 20 00:13:03 The part about super perception is TRUE. The rest of it is pure guess work. Jul 20 00:13:14 are you serious... another reward for beetles? Jul 20 00:13:16 * Caedar[SOT] bonks Modesitt. Jul 20 00:13:22 <-- Lorekeep (Lorekeep@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 20 00:13:26 I wouldn't mind it if it worked like marble Jul 20 00:13:27 dear god I hate dowsing Jul 20 00:13:29 i want 2 rewards for alignment too Jul 20 00:13:35 Where the veins were maybe a coordinate, but fairly common Jul 20 00:13:45 That way a beetle guy could prospect for others Jul 20 00:13:49 so I take it magnesium doesnt make ash huh >< Jul 20 00:13:50 Smoke: There are multiple tiers for beetle competitions. Jul 20 00:13:53 greedy people Jul 20 00:13:59 oh well. time to sleeeeeep. Jul 20 00:14:03 yeah, and the pass rate is really high Jul 20 00:14:04 Wait Jul 20 00:14:04 Oh yes it does Taera. Jul 20 00:14:09 But if it was like the magensium vein, that'd be bad Jul 20 00:14:09 Oh Jul 20 00:14:11 This is a level 2 beetle thing Jul 20 00:14:13 I see Jul 20 00:14:16 <-- XanragQuaashie has quit (Quit: ) Jul 20 00:14:18 Yes. Jul 20 00:14:22 Level 1 = Indo Honey Jul 20 00:14:27 Level 2 = Special Perception Jul 20 00:14:32 Well Jul 20 00:14:47 I guess I know what I'm doing for the next 48 hours Jul 20 00:14:51 if you have two beetles you don't own that make babies Jul 20 00:14:51 * Umopepisdn gets out the cabbage seeeds Jul 20 00:14:54 are the babies 100% yours? Jul 20 00:14:57 you too? Jul 20 00:14:58 No. Jul 20 00:15:03 --> Hodhr (aolsen@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:15:09 You know I'm hardcore on the mining, smokey ;) Jul 20 00:15:14 --> Porphyrus (Porphyrus@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:15:20 It averages the ownership % of the two parents Jul 20 00:15:26 yeah, and i did have hope for actually finding a mag vein Jul 20 00:15:50 deva, what happens to the money from the auction of the last mine Jul 20 00:15:56 --> Garan[ZT] (Garan[ZT]@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 20 00:15:59 the vein never really existed, we had to place extra fake spots to try and make it look even slightly realistic Jul 20 00:16:15 --> homegrown|afk (homegrown@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:16:17 <-- homegrown|afk has quit (Client closed connection) Jul 20 00:16:19 so GMs CAN place ore..... Jul 20 00:16:19 --> homegrown|afk (homegrown@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:16:23 Ohhhhhhh Jul 20 00:16:24 No, they can't. Jul 20 00:16:24 any khepry stuff ends up in chests on builders island Jul 20 00:16:24 No Dev, they can't. Jul 20 00:16:28 ERr, Jul 20 00:16:29 No smoka Jul 20 00:16:29 That explains why I couldn't find anything under the mines Jul 20 00:16:35 Except once Jul 20 00:16:42 GM'S CANNOT PLACE ORE. Jul 20 00:16:45 *clears that up* Jul 20 00:16:48 --- homegrown|afk is now known as homegrown Jul 20 00:16:51 only teppy or josh can place ore Jul 20 00:16:54 Even though there were reasonable spots between the mines Jul 20 00:17:06 can you place me a pony? Jul 20 00:17:14 I was only able to trip on one magnesium spot under the mine Jul 20 00:17:16 People were able to dowse it though. Jul 20 00:17:16 pony mine? :) Jul 20 00:17:22 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to homegrown Jul 20 00:17:38 * otter dumps a clydesdale on somebob Jul 20 00:17:43 No, they werent, Taha. Jul 20 00:17:48 They found the fake spots they put in Jul 20 00:17:53 if you use an ancient map you should see a dotted pattern Jul 20 00:17:54 i think that last code update broke the university donations... Jul 20 00:18:16 Dev, I've another question for you, since you're coming clean... Jul 20 00:18:19 Were you Mafia? Jul 20 00:18:23 nope Jul 20 00:18:30 i do know one of mafias characters Jul 20 00:18:38 sorry, i mean one of mafia's owners Jul 20 00:18:39 <-- Rehpic|BotS has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 20 00:18:45 mafia is a player driven "event" Jul 20 00:18:53 Like Octec was in Beta 2. Jul 20 00:18:55 khepry was a gm/egen driven event Jul 20 00:19:13 <-- MYodaWork has quit (Quit: Client Exiting) Jul 20 00:19:18 Octec was 100% player, only at one single point having dev/gm intervention. Jul 20 00:19:33 When the silver was dug up, and they needed the lightening for anthrax. Jul 20 00:19:38 well, the second half of Octec Jul 20 00:19:40 Hmm Jul 20 00:19:42 the first half was a dev event Jul 20 00:19:47 What was the first event? Jul 20 00:19:51 Er, first half Jul 20 00:19:51 the tomb and the poison Jul 20 00:19:55 --> ianubisi_ (ianubisi@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:19:56 the second half was the return of Octec Jul 20 00:19:56 Well of course the TOMB was dev. Jul 20 00:19:57 i had actually come up with an extension to the khepry story i think ppl would have enjoyed Jul 20 00:19:57 Ok.... now wait a minute Jul 20 00:20:00 What was the second half Jul 20 00:20:02 but that will never happen now Jul 20 00:20:03 But the guy was the players. Jul 20 00:20:09 Amira, you never finished your story ;) Jul 20 00:20:11 Yeah Jul 20 00:20:12 tell us then! Jul 20 00:20:41 I'll write up the second half Jul 20 00:20:43 Yeah, tell us Auntie Amira Jul 20 00:20:47 lol Jul 20 00:20:54 I'm bad at off the cuff story telling Jul 20 00:20:59 ask Caedar ;) Jul 20 00:21:15 once upon a time.. Jul 20 00:21:18 awww Jul 20 00:21:27 <-- ianubisi_ (ianubisi@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 20 00:21:33 Devalin - shame to hear that I liked the way the Khepry thing was running Jul 20 00:21:36 Do write it up though. I have been eagerly awaiting a sequel Jul 20 00:21:37 http://www.atitdportal.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1300 Jul 20 00:21:40 There ya go. Jul 20 00:21:53 Devalin Did you have special reason tu choose the name Khepry (yes its a 'god', but why that one). Jul 20 00:22:02 it was an old mule Jul 20 00:22:09 we wanted to use a character with time on the account Jul 20 00:22:09 <-- Lyekka[FS] has quit (Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4) Jul 20 00:22:33 ... Jul 20 00:22:36 heh, i kinda just assumed you faked the account time Jul 20 00:22:38 Dev, last time I ask this, promise... Jul 20 00:22:47 ...but what part of it was not according to plan? Jul 20 00:23:14 I'm very curious how it was supposed to be Jul 20 00:23:15 anything that happened today Jul 20 00:23:22 Hmm there goes my theory about the name Khepry ;) Jul 20 00:23:26 the mines werent meant to vanish Jul 20 00:23:40 dev we checked your 'speech' and it was said Jul 20 00:23:41 When did the mines vanish? Jul 20 00:23:47 you wereent around Jul 20 00:24:00 you dont tell EVERYONE what are we supposed to do Jul 20 00:24:09 i give up Jul 20 00:24:13 so magnesium ore never supposed to exist? What happens with current magnesium (ore) Jul 20 00:24:16 going to makee dinner for the kids Jul 20 00:24:32 The mines still exist Jul 20 00:24:47 are the ppl pulling the Mag gonna be banned !!!! ??? :*( Jul 20 00:24:59 no yeshua no Jul 20 00:25:01 lol Jul 20 00:25:05 few... Jul 20 00:25:12 *sigh of relief Jul 20 00:25:12 yea, they are... Jul 20 00:25:21 and everyone who has ever pulled on the mines Jul 20 00:25:25 then will have to be FUTURE pulls Jul 20 00:25:27 some ppl are taking some pretty hard blows at them *er us Jul 20 00:25:32 and everyone who has thought about pulling on the mines Jul 20 00:25:38 lol Jul 20 00:25:38 But... has otter been behind his computer all time? Or did he made an automatic script? Jul 20 00:26:02 she Jul 20 00:26:07 sorry Jul 20 00:26:16 Otter has said she cannot program. Jul 20 00:26:29 I feel sorry for otter then.. Jul 20 00:26:43 * otter has trouble turning on a computer Jul 20 00:26:47 since that would mean she has been behind her pc all time then.. Jul 20 00:26:59 --> Pardok (Pardok@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:27:04 is it legal to script opperations... as long as your present on an account Jul 20 00:27:23 i cannot move and no gms are coming :( Jul 20 00:27:34 whats the deal with veggie productions in 7L then? Jul 20 00:27:56 heh, 7L probably polluted itself Jul 20 00:28:09 psychladel-ZzZ: Low water level? leave it alone for 24 hours and see if production starts going up again Jul 20 00:28:17 or pollution Jul 20 00:28:22 every time i run down there i see deep wells and OIs right near camps Jul 20 00:28:55 our south camp is the only camp in the area for about a 2-300 coord area. Jul 20 00:29:19 deep wells don't pollute. Jul 20 00:29:25 so its not polution Jul 20 00:29:38 and I think the veggie thing was debunked. Jul 20 00:29:46 I sure haven't noticed anything. Jul 20 00:30:12 a side question... what sorta end food would it be needed for one person to be able to dig out a pyramid block without taking 3 months to do it? Jul 20 00:30:42 and I do appologize its not just veggies. Jul 20 00:30:54 you don't need end food at all - about 7-8 digs, 120 seconds, from memore Jul 20 00:30:55 or does it really just need several people for it to be done functionally? Jul 20 00:30:59 memory* Jul 20 00:31:01 flax is also affected Jul 20 00:31:10 hmm Jul 20 00:31:12 ok, I guess I heard wrong Jul 20 00:31:13 * Brant|SN goes to grow some flax Jul 20 00:31:18 trust me! veggies have been fine in VoK Jul 20 00:31:18 <-- Pardok has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 00:31:47 --> Pardok (Pardok@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:31:51 its got to be local. everyone would be screaming if it was all of 7lakes Jul 20 00:31:59 RiverWalker: You really want to get one more person to help you dig up blocks, it's more than twice as fast. Jul 20 00:32:11 <-- Nemik has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 00:33:03 River - +24 end food will take about 10 minutes alone Jul 20 00:33:08 get a friend to help you Jul 20 00:33:30 BTW did the buildings in the area of the magnesium mines come back? Jul 20 00:33:32 should only take 2 or so minutes with 2 people Jul 20 00:33:35 Some did Jul 20 00:33:55 <-- idnic has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 00:34:01 --> Guest3 (Guest@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:34:10 so what happened today? was the area not supposed to expand? Jul 20 00:34:21 ground water 100, acidity 1, 1000/1000 tadpoles survived, tokratrifecta gives 3/3/3. Jul 20 00:34:28 Flax in northern 7L is fine. Jul 20 00:35:04 K I will talk to my guildmember and tell him to try again today Jul 20 00:38:00 i am a butt monkey Jul 20 00:38:16 <-- Caedar[SOT] has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 00:38:50 --> Rehpic|BotS (chatzilla@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:39:07 --- Saxamon is now known as Saxamon|afk Jul 20 00:39:07 <-- Amuniet has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 20 00:39:10 Ooh, pure gold beetle Jul 20 00:39:17 And only the first generation after wild one Jul 20 00:39:18 +s Jul 20 00:39:32 <-- Pardok has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 00:40:10 mmmmm Jul 20 00:40:17 http://www.e-pcsolutions.com/images/beer.jpg Jul 20 00:40:19 beer... Jul 20 00:40:19 mmm, beetles. Jul 20 00:41:30 <-- Bravy|ATITD_german (hluka@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #ATITD Jul 20 00:43:08 arg, bad random crash, no donut!\ Jul 20 00:43:36 --- Gormengast|away is now known as Gormengast Jul 20 00:43:41 --> Kalar (Kalar@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:43:55 --- Saxamon|afk is now known as Saxamon Jul 20 00:43:56 hmm, so there's a donut up for grabs? dibs! Jul 20 00:44:28 aye, after i bore out a few more blocks I'll make ya a FSD Jul 20 00:45:06 I'll put together some gearboxes to make robocop, the only possible use for a FSD Jul 20 00:45:14 Fine Steel Donut? Jul 20 00:45:32 diamond-tipped donut! Jul 20 00:45:33 Full Set of Dentures? Jul 20 00:46:10 you need the diamond tipped dentures if you wanna eat a FSD tho. Jul 20 00:46:35 <-- Guest3 has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 00:46:38 heh Jul 20 00:46:44 yay for teppy Jul 20 00:46:48 * TheDude[OWRH] reads system Jul 20 00:46:52 <-- Kalar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 00:47:03 --> Kalar (Kalar@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 00:47:10 Is teppy a slow typist? :P Jul 20 00:47:16 I think so Jul 20 00:47:18 hes trying to work out how to word it Jul 20 00:47:25 Hmm, no, I think he just likes keeping us in suspense :P Jul 20 00:47:28 only coz he has to type /systemchat in front of every sentence Jul 20 00:47:37 yeah, that can't help Jul 20 00:47:37 ugh, this beer is too big... Jul 20 00:47:38 story time! /me gets a pillow Jul 20 00:47:47 actually, I think he tries to be careful to keep from misspelling too much : ) Jul 20 00:47:50 night everyone Jul 20 00:47:53 actually, theres no edit/typo fixes in broadcasts, so u do have to be careful Jul 20 00:47:58 he's famous for his dramatic pauses. Jul 20 00:48:02 heh Jul 20 00:48:02 --- Amira is now known as Amira|afk Jul 20 00:48:04 --- Amira|afk removes channel operator status from Amira|afk Jul 20 00:48:04 --- Amira|afk gives voice to Amira|afk Jul 20 00:48:06 * Taharqy waves Jul 20 00:48:16 <-- Taharqy (mix@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #ATITD Jul 20 00:48:16 for some reason system channel only broadcasts on the minute Jul 20 00:48:38 heh, i think teppy usually speaks in 1337 and he has to translate so we can understand Jul 20 00:49:09 so Devalin was Khepry after all... Jul 20 00:50:03 I wonder if this will happen all over again with Uranium... Jul 20 00:50:12 lol Jul 20 00:50:40 3 i wonder if super-dowsing as a reward for beetles is real Jul 20 00:50:48 * Brant|SN sits down by the fire staring wide-eyed at Uncle Teppy Jul 20 00:50:54 Ooh. Jul 20 00:52:14 shouldn't that be ouch? :P Jul 20 00:52:37 we got levels? Jul 20 00:52:39 as you're getting burnt ;) Jul 20 00:52:48 * Tamutnefret is level 134, didn't you know? Jul 20 00:53:00 heh Jul 20 00:53:24 * Gormengast better start killin some goblins, or camels, or whatever holds them XPs Jul 20 00:53:34 There's no 'e' in valuable :P Jul 20 00:53:39 you guys should realise i have a hand in most evil things ;) Jul 20 00:54:00 well, you ARE the stranger, after all. Jul 20 00:54:05 we all knew that. Jul 20 00:54:09 so it's assumed that you do. :p Jul 20 00:54:16 nope, remember what i said time and time again Jul 20 00:54:23 "i'm not the stranger, i just work for him" Jul 20 00:54:36 :gasp!: Jul 20 00:54:37 exactly... Jul 20 00:54:42 yeah, just like santa claus. Jul 20 00:54:54 heh Jul 20 00:55:00 Santa Claus works for the stranger? Jul 20 00:55:06 ironic that dev played the stranger Jul 20 00:55:07 * Osmirik gasps Jul 20 00:55:11 remember Devalin != Khepry != Isaac etc Jul 20 00:55:20 each is an independant character Jul 20 00:55:35 Of course. Jul 20 00:55:42 it is a MMORPG, after all. Jul 20 00:55:42 <-- |Taco| has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 20 00:55:47 BTW, did you have a "bless" macro? :-) Jul 20 00:55:48 Olav dowsed the mines, correct? Jul 20 00:55:57 exactly... just like Mafia != anyone else :P Jul 20 00:56:04 he turned up after the mines where placed Jul 20 00:56:06 they just won't believe that Jul 20 00:56:08 Devalin: like the real santa, and the ones at the malls? Jul 20 00:56:10 and tried to work out the vein size Jul 20 00:56:17 I see, ok Jul 20 00:56:27 However, Devalin.playedBy() == Khepry.playedBy() Jul 20 00:56:43 oh shmack Jul 20 00:56:45 system Jul 20 00:57:03 :gasp:! Jul 20 00:57:05 Uh oh, cue /chatstorm on devalin. Jul 20 00:57:11 Teppy came to me and asked me if i wanted to play a total a...... Jul 20 00:57:15 "CAN U SELL ME MAGNESIM I WILL PAY"d Jul 20 00:57:23 :( Jul 20 00:57:27 and you replied "I'm not?", right? :) Jul 20 00:57:33 i never had that much magnesium Jul 20 00:57:57 rofl @ system Jul 20 00:58:00 seems to remember the early conversatio yesterday in IRC with Plur Jul 20 00:58:06 I think I know where verything went wrong Jul 20 00:58:12 Devalin has already promised to sell me all the magnesium he has left. Jul 20 00:58:18 no Jul 20 00:58:24 i promised to sell u the magnesium i mined last night Jul 20 00:58:30 as devalin Jul 20 00:58:33 heh Jul 20 00:58:37 --- Rhayde|afk is now known as Rhayde|lin2\server12 Jul 20 00:58:41 khepry lives on! Jul 20 00:58:44 devalin didnt share resources with khepry for obvious reasons Jul 20 00:58:50 didnt need to, K had conjure Jul 20 00:58:57 people have a problem with that fact that character != player Jul 20 00:59:13 none here. Jul 20 00:59:17 What... you mean I don't really live in Egypt? Jul 20 00:59:27 especially since most of our names in IRC are our character's names Jul 20 00:59:56 lol Jul 20 00:59:59 --> loreleilee (sarac@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:00:04 We were supposed to write a law to get the mines from Khepry, Saxc Jul 20 01:00:06 Doh Jul 20 01:00:06 the flag slip actually helped Jul 20 01:00:10 I KNOW Jul 20 01:00:13 i've no issues with that accident Jul 20 01:00:22 right. but you should judge a person's character by the actions of his other character Jul 20 01:00:30 Pun, Knight? Jul 20 01:00:41 Know what would have happened if we DID take the mines, however? Jul 20 01:00:46 No. Jul 20 01:00:48 Don't tell us. Jul 20 01:00:52 Don't ruin it. Jul 20 01:00:53 i *never* thought khepry was anything but a player until that. (and niether did any of the other GM's) well done! good show! Jul 20 01:01:12 you'd have had some very nice magnesium mines Sax Jul 20 01:01:17 I think most egyptians would rather live in a magnesiumless world where mines are not seized... Jul 20 01:01:26 it's too bad the storywriter didn't consider that option Jul 20 01:01:29 I think the law would have gone down in flames Jul 20 01:01:36 Most certainly Jul 20 01:01:43 * Osmirik feeds his beetles aphrodisiac Jul 20 01:01:45 it was fun stalling well known players clambering to buy mines Jul 20 01:01:48 Hurry up and breed, dammit! Jul 20 01:01:57 Law did go down in flames. Jul 20 01:01:59 must have been tiring after a while Dev Jul 20 01:02:03 :( I feel left out. Jul 20 01:02:04 and me too Jul 20 01:02:08 It is as Garan says, Egypt doesn't want to take things from others. Jul 20 01:02:14 It was just plain funny, period ;) Jul 20 01:02:20 I dont think I count as well known yet :P Jul 20 01:02:44 well i came up with the "all the mag ore is going to one player who is helping me pass tests" excuse Jul 20 01:02:53 Yes you did Jul 20 01:02:55 that was meant to try and point a few fingers Jul 20 01:03:03 Khepry wouldnt say who Jul 20 01:03:08 so is this the only magnesium vein? Jul 20 01:03:41 apart from the one teppy gave devalin as a reward for playing khepry, yes its the only one Jul 20 01:03:44 I did think it was kinda fishy that devalin had magnesium Jul 20 01:03:48 and found white glowers on his "first try" Jul 20 01:03:52 but other than that, i was fooled too Jul 20 01:04:05 See rule one. Jul 20 01:04:09 see? Teppy is the stranger! I knew it! Jul 20 01:04:19 Actually, read the entire rules list. They're all pretty important. Jul 20 01:04:42 ? what rules? Jul 20 01:06:10 rule #1 - you do not talk about fight club? Jul 20 01:06:20 http://www.atitd.com/conduct.html Jul 20 01:06:22 rule #1 - no poofda's? Jul 20 01:06:39 That's rule 6, curtkram Jul 20 01:06:41 Those rules? Jul 20 01:07:30 so now that it's out, can we find magnesium yet? Jul 20 01:07:36 lol Jul 20 01:07:56 not sure magnesium will ever be very available Jul 20 01:07:58 its very potent Jul 20 01:08:32 Forget magnesium. I'm waiting for the uranium... Jul 20 01:08:47 yeah, I'm looking forward to that Jul 20 01:08:54 exactly, I want the ash. Jul 20 01:09:03 maybe it'll have something to do with those damn uprogresses Jul 20 01:09:10 hehe Jul 20 01:09:19 any updates on the uprogresses? Jul 20 01:09:31 one thing to mention, gm's cant place pollution Jul 20 01:09:39 all the pollution was cause by you guys mining Jul 20 01:10:11 What about the visible effects of the pollution? Jul 20 01:10:18 the rock effects .. GM or player caused? Jul 20 01:10:24 nope, uprogresses are still 'under construction' Jul 20 01:10:37 both Jul 20 01:10:38 And what was that stuff about the water that came and went as mining went on Jul 20 01:10:50 And the mystery player blocking acro attempts Jul 20 01:10:53 <-- Dyant has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:10:54 --> Dyant|AFK (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:11:02 Some sort of daemon responding to worked mines? Jul 20 01:11:16 any blocks on acro attempts were probably accidents Jul 20 01:11:26 yay the stranger! Jul 20 01:11:27 Nah Jul 20 01:11:27 we had alot of gms around helping out Jul 20 01:11:31 --> TpcT (TpcT@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:11:34 Next to one of the mines this morning Jul 20 01:11:40 * Knightmare cheers. Jul 20 01:11:40 Yeah, I really don't get this obsession with a 'daemon' Jul 20 01:11:46 <-- Dyant|AFK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:11:47 Everyone was gone, was getting 'seclusion' messages Jul 20 01:11:47 --> Dyant|AFK (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:11:54 they can hide Jul 20 01:11:55 and '1 people in range' Jul 20 01:11:58 but it was a very short range Jul 20 01:12:01 GMs are invisible. Jul 20 01:12:10 and when acroing next to the spot alone, there was no name given Jul 20 01:12:15 That'd be a crude hack at worst. Invisible GMs, or code would be the way to go, or a combination Jul 20 01:12:17 yeah well when GMs pull that crap it is *very* annoying Jul 20 01:12:18 --> Dyant (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:12:18 I mean, no message indiciating I was near someone Jul 20 01:12:29 <-- Dyant|AFK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:12:33 if they want GMs to remain invis then they should fix it so that it doesn't harm acro Jul 20 01:12:37 Need to hack the acro code so invis GMs don't interfere Jul 20 01:12:37 no idea umo, probably a bug Jul 20 01:12:45 i suggested that sax Jul 20 01:12:47 Well if there was >1 GM, then it would give you the 'seclusion' message Jul 20 01:12:48 BTW, does /bug work? Jul 20 01:12:58 how often do you get invisible GMs though Jul 20 01:12:58 you have no idea how much I agree with that : ) Jul 20 01:13:00 I have reported many little things with /bug, none have been fixed Jul 20 01:13:09 I was just wondering if it was a valid command Jul 20 01:13:17 happened to me and folly the other day when we were near UArch in NE VoK Jul 20 01:13:23 not sure how often minor bugs are fixed Jul 20 01:13:24 so apparantly more often than one might think Jul 20 01:13:27 TheSmokapotamus: A lot around a big event, I imagine :P Jul 20 01:13:31 So Devalin, is it possible for some of the polution from these mag mines to hit 7L area? Jul 20 01:13:34 But are they even seen? Jul 20 01:13:40 no umo Jul 20 01:13:44 we couldn't see anyone around Jul 20 01:13:47 I've had an invisible GM in the vicinity. He acro-ed back :P Jul 20 01:13:53 mag mines are no more polluting than normal mines Jul 20 01:13:55 no, I meant bugs entered with the /bug command Jul 20 01:14:21 Teppy likes ellipses... Jul 20 01:14:31 He does, doesn't he... Jul 20 01:14:31 And... Jul 20 01:14:36 Teppy also likes... Jul 20 01:14:40 Dramatic.... Jul 20 01:14:41 Pauses... Jul 20 01:14:44 so if a mine is overworked, it create a crapload of polution Jul 20 01:14:49 yes.... Jul 20 01:14:54 He types like he's Captain Kirk. Jul 20 01:14:59 Modesitt: LOL... Jul 20 01:15:00 we've got to get to the... Jul 20 01:15:03 ...transporter. Jul 20 01:15:06 Ellipses are good... Jul 20 01:15:15 I think that Teppy thinks in long thoughts and trunkates them with elpises Jul 20 01:15:20 He types like a guy who knows hes talking to his entire customer base, and doesn't want any typos. Jul 20 01:15:20 I suggested that earlier, but several people claimed that other mines had been worked harder than these ones before Jul 20 01:15:28 Yes Jul 20 01:15:35 yes Jul 20 01:15:36 I noticed that the spacing between indicates careful thought or slow typing Jul 20 01:15:37 <-- DMGS (dole@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #atitd Jul 20 01:15:45 probably the former ;) Jul 20 01:15:47 yes. i had 5 automated iron mines 20 coords from SOT one time. ask them how great that is :D Jul 20 01:16:02 Dear Mabel, I'm writing this letter slowly, because I know you're not a fast reader... Jul 20 01:16:08 We all must remain eternally vigilant. Jul 20 01:16:12 --> Lyekka[FS] (mjh@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:16:17 so speaking of discord, when do the next DP elections start? Jul 20 01:16:17 Eternally paranoid you mean Jul 20 01:16:17 Unusual behavior? So I'm supposed to suspect my whole guild? Jul 20 01:16:24 We must root out agents of the Stranger where ever they might be found! Jul 20 01:16:27 Because they're all weirdos Jul 20 01:16:30 If your suspect your neighbors are engaging in suspicious activity, report to the CIA.. err... Pharaoh... immediately. Jul 20 01:16:35 My guild is a lot better since we found lithium near our water supply Jul 20 01:16:42 heh Jul 20 01:16:42 oh boy! a witch hunt! Jul 20 01:16:42 Heh Jul 20 01:16:43 yay - witch hunt! Jul 20 01:16:47 Yes, we need a feature request to tie people to bonfires. Jul 20 01:16:47 --> Khamenes (billaben@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:16:57 it' Jul 20 01:16:57 she turned me into a newt Jul 20 01:17:03 Amira is the stranger! I saw it! It's true! Jul 20 01:17:04 i got better! Jul 20 01:17:05 it's TIPS in ATITD Jul 20 01:17:06 Then we can start a thread on 'applied witch burning' and determine the best amounts of wood to use. Jul 20 01:17:09 Now we need to createa a central agency to hunt down reports of the Stranger's activities. Jul 20 01:17:11 we can't mine our lithium mines because it's next to someone elses camp Jul 20 01:17:12 Belgara: Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Jul 20 01:17:29 Like X-Files Egypt Jul 20 01:17:38 E-Files Jul 20 01:17:40 there you have it in system, Pharoah said in black and white, it was an event, it ended that night, and we FAILED. Jul 20 01:17:48 arg, wtf. Jul 20 01:17:50 uh Jul 20 01:17:53 Khamenes, he definitely said he failed. Jul 20 01:17:56 we need to start a Department of Homeland Security for Egypt Jul 20 01:17:57 Er... what did we fail? Jul 20 01:18:01 my alt. character doesn't have the option to build a shrine to me Jul 20 01:18:08 The magnesium event was an event, we failed it. Jul 20 01:18:09 What would've been us suceeding? Jul 20 01:18:11 even though I offered mentorship and the char said yes Jul 20 01:18:12 well actually we both failed in some way or another Jul 20 01:18:13 Have they been in the game 90 minutes? Jul 20 01:18:13 How? Jul 20 01:18:18 Knightmare: did you mentor it? Jul 20 01:18:19 They failed it? Jul 20 01:18:20 oh. Jul 20 01:18:21 and are they paid Jul 20 01:18:22 yes Jul 20 01:18:26 and yes Jul 20 01:18:32 the "test" was us not stealing them from khepry with law. Jul 20 01:18:32 <-- grave06[NRP] has quit (Quit: ) Jul 20 01:18:34 They have an option even when paid Jul 20 01:18:39 errr... right? Jul 20 01:18:39 It is more than likely being written off because of the khepry being revealed, and therefore isn't likely to count. but it was an event, we failed it. Jul 20 01:18:40 Yes. we passed that test. Jul 20 01:18:40 <-- HawkMaster has quit (Ping timeout) Jul 20 01:18:51 heh Jul 20 01:18:52 How did we fail it? Jul 20 01:18:53 how the heck did we fail it? Jul 20 01:18:59 I think you're wrong. Jul 20 01:19:00 where in any of that did Pharoah say we failed? Jul 20 01:19:01 We failed nothing. Jul 20 01:19:01 Yes, we passed Jul 20 01:19:04 Plan A of the stranger was us to steal it. we passed that. Plan B was last night. we failed last night. Jul 20 01:19:12 it's ironic that the only magnesium in the game seems to have been given to us Jul 20 01:19:14 How? Jul 20 01:19:14 In what way did we fail? Jul 20 01:19:16 it wasn't even found blindly Jul 20 01:19:25 That's not irony, Tree. Jul 20 01:19:28 Not really, Tree. we arent meant to have found it. We wont get it if we canvas dowse. Jul 20 01:19:33 same thing happend with gold Jul 20 01:19:38 what's ironic is that greedy bastards are trying to make it so no one else can have magnesium Jul 20 01:19:44 rehpic: no, it didn't Jul 20 01:19:46 No, gold was very different Jul 20 01:19:46 that's my point Jul 20 01:19:51 <-- aukks has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:19:59 gold was given to us. because it wasnt found fast enough Jul 20 01:20:02 umo: that's an odd view to have... why have minerals if they aren't meant to be found? Jul 20 01:20:02 ask the people whose camps got ruined....i think they will agree that we FAILED Jul 20 01:20:02 The gold even was irony. Or goldy, as it were. Jul 20 01:20:04 i think its down to you to decide if u passed or failed Jul 20 01:20:09 read system channel, it's not very complicated. Jul 20 01:20:16 this is an event Jul 20 01:20:17 not a test Jul 20 01:20:21 there is no pass or fail Jul 20 01:20:21 a dramatic change to the landscape was caused by the greed of some Jul 20 01:20:22 We were suppose to destory their camps. And we did. I call that a pass in my book. Jul 20 01:20:23 it just is Jul 20 01:20:25 Did calixes lose her camp ? Jul 20 01:20:31 During the event, no-one's camp was destroyed Jul 20 01:20:35 it certainly showed who the greedy ones were Jul 20 01:20:42 that's success for the stranger, not for egypt Jul 20 01:20:45 khepries camp was, but thats a side issue Jul 20 01:20:45 Who are the greedy ones? Jul 20 01:20:50 After further GM meddling, maybe -- but that was long after everyone left Jul 20 01:20:51 Hmm. A watched beetle never boils. Jul 20 01:21:28 They're not meddling now, but the rock still grows. Jul 20 01:21:39 so does the magnesium stay or get removed from the game? Jul 20 01:21:43 <-- Varen|BES has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:21:46 err Jul 20 01:21:50 last I heard it still exists. Jul 20 01:21:50 those mag. mines that is Jul 20 01:21:54 hopefully it gets removed, along with all the ash made from mag Jul 20 01:21:55 I'll be checking it again soon Jul 20 01:21:57 and the white glowers Jul 20 01:22:07 I doubt it will be removed. Jul 20 01:22:15 Knight, do you really think Teppy has a flag for 'Ash made by Mag' 'Ash not made by mag'? Jul 20 01:22:28 probably :) he has a flag for everything else Jul 20 01:22:31 and logs to back them up Jul 20 01:22:32 Your ashes wouldnt stack ;) Jul 20 01:22:33 magnesium is your friend! Embrace it! Jul 20 01:22:34 And that this flag still lets them stack with each other? Jul 20 01:22:40 why would you want less ash in egypt? Jul 20 01:22:51 magnesium is here to stay Jul 20 01:22:58 Magnesium is part of the game, I'm guessing that those mines will have a severely limited lifespan in terms of the amount of ore we get from them. Then we'll have to find our own magnesium again Jul 20 01:22:59 gods... this is why I don't talk to peopl... the naked greed is still in the air... Jul 20 01:23:00 that vein is yours guys, enjoy it Jul 20 01:23:02 Khamenes: Every time the rock grew, there was an invisible GM around Jul 20 01:23:06 Or a visible one Jul 20 01:23:07 do you think the land would have changed if nobody worked the mines? Jul 20 01:23:19 the event is over, stage 1, will we steal it with laws? no. we didn't even try, it wouldn't have passed. Jul 20 01:23:36 there is one level one mine up for auction remember Jul 20 01:23:38 stage 2, what happens when they are given to us in a big fanfare, with demonic undertones and scarry speaches, and weird effects. Jul 20 01:23:51 <-- Haggis[FoN] has quit (Quit: [00:11] I really should just shut up...) Jul 20 01:23:53 We use it till the land turns to barren rock Jul 20 01:23:56 <-- Hodhr has quit (Quit: [BX] Life is like BitchX. Ya never know what yer gunna git.) Jul 20 01:23:57 scarry speeches? Jul 20 01:24:08 we failed stage two so badly it's not even funny Jul 20 01:24:12 Scary speeches are cool Jul 20 01:24:28 So you keep repeating, Khamenes Jul 20 01:24:35 so we didn't cooperate, therefore that mag and ash should disappear? Jul 20 01:24:36 that doesnt make it any more true than the first time you said it Jul 20 01:24:36 I don't think we failed it very badly Jul 20 01:24:36 * Garan[ZT] doesn't see a failure Jul 20 01:24:41 he just announced it on system channel, how can you not accept that ? Jul 20 01:24:43 How about some sort of backup Jul 20 01:24:55 Uhhhh Jul 20 01:25:05 So... what you're saying is... people shouldn't work public mines? Or that public mines shouldn't exist? Or we can be trusted to mine? Jul 20 01:25:07 "I want to talk about an event that we just had over the last few weeks, which unfortunately we screwed up." Jul 20 01:25:09 point out the line where he said 'you failed a test the stranger set you' Jul 20 01:25:16 "I'll tell the story, and then I'll tell how it got screwed up" Jul 20 01:25:16 how much more could we have failed? Jul 20 01:25:23 they mean the GMs and devs screwed it up Jul 20 01:25:24 It was NOT screwed up by the players. Jul 20 01:25:30 It was screwed up by the GM's. Jul 20 01:25:42 jeez, Jul 20 01:25:42 Let's banish the GMs for this! Jul 20 01:25:42 accidentally screwed up, I'll add for the record Jul 20 01:25:54 Let's banish the GMs anyways! Jul 20 01:25:54 I am saying that when the land starts turning to barren rock maybe, just maybe, if you had even one louzy rock rolling about in that sack of meat you use to think with... MAYBE YOU SHOLD STOP MINING AND GET CONCERNED! Jul 20 01:26:09 aww geez Jul 20 01:26:13 but the land damage was going to occur anyway Jul 20 01:26:16 it was scripted Jul 20 01:26:17 it's not like the nile dried up Jul 20 01:26:20 it wasnt screwed up at all Jul 20 01:26:21 i saw evil sides to a lot of people over magnesium, well before this event Jul 20 01:26:22 khamenes: and it sounds like everyone did, except for imhotep and a couple others Jul 20 01:26:24 Maybe you should calm down Khamenes Jul 20 01:26:27 it just went on a little longer than it should have Jul 20 01:26:28 Because you are clearly about to have a stroke Jul 20 01:26:29 over a game Jul 20 01:26:30 read the BBC log Jul 20 01:26:32 and that's kinda sad Jul 20 01:26:48 Get 'em some lithium! Jul 20 01:26:53 lol Jul 20 01:26:56 this is the first big event weve done, and it wasnt even meant to be big Jul 20 01:27:04 --> Triumph (Triumph@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:27:04 all were saying is, the next ones will be better planend Jul 20 01:27:16 cool, Dev Jul 20 01:27:23 that's good to know dev Jul 20 01:27:26 just make sure the storyboard allows a path for failure Jul 20 01:27:27 So... we need to have a system of punishment in place. Jul 20 01:27:33 so does anyone know if there is more magnesium out there? is it even worth looking? Jul 20 01:27:35 I look forward to them :-) Jul 20 01:27:36 from my thinking DP was an event of a sort too... one we did not fail really Jul 20 01:27:43 and I must wonder if mafia was an event. =P Jul 20 01:27:46 so when's the next DP race? Jul 20 01:27:48 All the tests are... tests. Jul 20 01:27:54 Can I just say that although I wasn't really a part of what happened Jul 20 01:28:07 the IRC and ingame chat for the last few weeks leading up to this has been great Jul 20 01:28:11 I'd guess there has got to be more out there Jul 20 01:28:15 in equally impossible to find veins Jul 20 01:28:18 whatever arguments have/do spring up over this Jul 20 01:28:22 we need this more Jul 20 01:28:23 a lot more Jul 20 01:28:27 I agree Jul 20 01:28:32 WD Devalin, WD GM's WD Teppy Jul 20 01:28:32 we need more events like this Jul 20 01:28:36 thats my 2c Jul 20 01:28:40 ok, for once trust me on this one, MAFIA is nothing to do with us Jul 20 01:28:41 So the barren rock is a scripted event, and isn't going to start magically happening on other mines. Jul 20 01:28:41 it really shook things up Jul 20 01:28:42 WD? Jul 20 01:28:44 there's been a newbie flood in the law forum on .net Jul 20 01:28:51 WMD! Jul 20 01:29:00 Been a newbie flood in the law forums since day one. Jul 20 01:29:02 OMFG BAN PEOPLE WHO USE THE MINES! Jul 20 01:29:04 Khamenes: it was a human doing it. Jul 20 01:29:05 personally, I'm neutral to it, but objectively, that's a good thing Jul 20 01:29:16 wasn't sure... planned or not, mafia was a free test for you, you didn't have to even write it. P Jul 20 01:29:17 Sax, two weeks ago, it was three of us strangling each other :p Jul 20 01:29:31 we passed the mafia test quite well :) Jul 20 01:29:51 I think we should wait a month before declaring the dragon slain Jul 20 01:30:18 I have to wonder if OI's were a test too... I don't feel we passed that one if it was. Jul 20 01:30:22 i slay my dragons as they appear ;) Jul 20 01:30:37 i dunno, i havent ever had a problem with OIs Jul 20 01:30:47 theres tons of open desert for them to run Jul 20 01:30:55 I think the OI test has gone great Jul 20 01:31:00 you haven't had to move twice because one of them got laid down in your back yard. Jul 20 01:31:00 almost all of them are built out in the deserts Jul 20 01:31:02 yeah, i think weve done great with OI's. Jul 20 01:31:13 we educate noobs properly about them. Jul 20 01:31:35 Although I do agree MOST people have gotten responsible with OI's but the old ones that were left in really poor places, still all stand. =( Jul 20 01:31:57 have you asked the owners? Jul 20 01:32:15 you don't know the owners? :) Jul 20 01:32:15 is the OI at the XR bridge in OE still standing ? Jul 20 01:32:41 one OI does not a problem make Jul 20 01:32:59 sure would like to toast the one near the lake i live at.... Jul 20 01:32:59 smok: well, it could make a local problem Jul 20 01:33:04 There's two that bother me, considerably. the other is owned by Scorpion kings, and it's sitting on the main road killing 4 date trees and a lot of growing area. Jul 20 01:33:08 never gets fired, but its damn ugly Jul 20 01:33:23 <-- Guest397068679 has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 01:33:29 that's in CCR Jul 20 01:33:36 hmm. megadeth... I'm sure he'll listen to your complaints :) Jul 20 01:33:56 can someone get Teppy? Jul 20 01:33:57 I can't log on. Jul 20 01:34:00 gotta wonder about guilds like order of ragnarok Jul 20 01:34:11 well, I can, but I get kicked off. Jul 20 01:34:43 can a GM move your character? Jul 20 01:34:47 dunno if they have that ability Jul 20 01:34:48 probably not Jul 20 01:34:55 they can warp u Jul 20 01:34:59 GM can't port you, so yes. Jul 20 01:35:00 not make u run or walk Jul 20 01:35:05 Does the auction need to be paid in TN? Jul 20 01:35:11 can someone get me a GM? any GM? :( Jul 20 01:35:15 or will Materials suffice Jul 20 01:35:48 nothing wrong with your account Taera Jul 20 01:35:52 no, my computer Jul 20 01:36:01 im near a huge building zone and I log on and get kicked right off. Jul 20 01:36:06 my vid card cant handle the coops Jul 20 01:36:14 ohh Jul 20 01:36:18 well, I can log on, but I cant move my mouse Jul 20 01:36:27 drop the objects visible option, might help a little Jul 20 01:36:29 so if I log on can someone just port me a bit away? Jul 20 01:36:29 taera, that happens to me a lot Jul 20 01:36:36 Psy, I tried, but that shut me down too Jul 20 01:36:37 if you can log on, hit alt-s Jul 20 01:36:38 --> Maynard- (Maynard-@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 20 01:36:40 after you get situated Jul 20 01:36:48 I did hit alt S, and it threw me off. Jul 20 01:36:48 <-- Maynard- (Maynard-@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has left #ATITD Jul 20 01:36:51 <-- Khamenes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:36:56 Kham, I suggest just leaving anyone that doesn't want to move their OIs alone. Nothing but bad karma can result Jul 20 01:37:05 Oops Jul 20 01:37:30 anyway i need to get some sleep Jul 20 01:37:32 night all Jul 20 01:37:34 <-- Devalin has quit (Quit: ) Jul 20 01:37:52 <-- Kalar has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 01:38:46 are people having severe lag like me? Jul 20 01:38:57 Yes Jul 20 01:38:58 I'm tapping rods, so I can't say Jul 20 01:39:04 ugh Jul 20 01:39:04 yes, constantly. with random disconnects. it's been horrible Jul 20 01:39:05 yes Jul 20 01:39:07 yes Jul 20 01:39:08 time standing still Jul 20 01:39:10 there it goes Jul 20 01:39:15 ok Jul 20 01:39:22 OK for me Jul 20 01:39:27 dunno I am watching the OI, which is proving not to be too beneficial Jul 20 01:39:27 time freezes... some Jul 20 01:39:33 YEY! I moved! Jul 20 01:39:33 was a bit ago Jul 20 01:39:36 * Taera dances Jul 20 01:39:40 we got somee serious lag Jul 20 01:39:44 I have had such problems over the last day or two Jul 20 01:39:55 maybe someone is updating a cisco router Jul 20 01:39:57 whoever ported me, xie xie! Jul 20 01:40:00 I have it jsut now while mining Jul 20 01:40:01 The Router issues, might still be taking place Jul 20 01:40:03 bah Jul 20 01:40:07 i keep seeing water on the edge of the map as i travel Jul 20 01:40:13 ohh Jul 20 01:40:18 Walk up to the edge lol Jul 20 01:40:22 --> Khamenes (billaben@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:40:25 Its the end of the world when that happens Jul 20 01:40:30 that was some very long lag jsut now Jul 20 01:40:37 I got water at the edge of the map when I got disconnected Jul 20 01:40:37 it dissapears as i go towards it Jul 20 01:40:40 yeah Jul 20 01:40:53 we just managed 3 turns in a row each on placinh mushs in a heket game Jul 20 01:40:55 Between being disconnected and it finally realising that, all the new terrain I saw was water Jul 20 01:41:09 heh one time I logged in, and then waypointed a short distance away, and I could see cliffs in the distance from where it had loaded the map data from my login, and water at my feet as it downloaded the current location Jul 20 01:41:15 oh, I was able to walk all the way up to it and see ocean for as far as the eye could see, but when I looked at the map there was suppose to be a zone called RP. Jul 20 01:41:30 -Global- Greetings! Join us in 1 standard Earth hour for your weekly dose of Stratics Trivia! Scores will be reset and players set to create another Champion! Join us in 1 hour... 60 minutes... 3600 seconds (give or take) 730PM MST, see ya in #Stratics-Trivia ! Jul 20 01:41:58 dced again Jul 20 01:42:05 I'm gonna get off for a bit Jul 20 01:42:16 give up till later Jul 20 01:42:24 Taera: could try hitting "alt-s" on login Jul 20 01:42:28 turns models off Jul 20 01:42:29 <-- ArmEagle has quit (Quit: play/sleep well) Jul 20 01:42:35 but I need to judge this opticon =/ Jul 20 01:42:36 looks like I got a 50% pull Iron/ruby mine! Jul 20 01:42:51 Taera: Ooh, which opticon? ;) Jul 20 01:42:58 the liberty bridge one Jul 20 01:43:00 hence the lag Jul 20 01:43:09 ah Jul 20 01:43:09 when do your votes start mattering? Jul 20 01:43:14 There's about 4 around that region :P Jul 20 01:43:26 seen one of em already Jul 20 01:43:29 The fifth opticon you vote on is the first one affected Jul 20 01:43:37 and I saw 2 in VoK Jul 20 01:43:50 and I went to one that was listed on the site but was actually a guildhall, not an opticon Jul 20 01:44:02 There's one across from the nileside, one right by the bridge, and one some distance away on a plateau Jul 20 01:44:16 Where was the guildhall one? Jul 20 01:44:17 I knbow about bridge and nileside Jul 20 01:44:34 -1025 6225 I think Jul 20 01:44:53 feh this lag *sucks* Jul 20 01:45:03 --> assasssin (Email@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #ATITD Jul 20 01:45:05 -Global- Ok - we stand corrected - 45 minutes, not 1 hour... *rolls eyes* But its STILL Trivia - see ya there! 730PM MST in #Stratics-Trivia ! Jul 20 01:46:08 btw, anyone interested in buying bulk canvas? Jul 20 01:46:10 <-- Oedipa has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 20 01:46:10 <-- Khamenes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:46:35 how much? Jul 20 01:46:48 hey, standard pattern repeat on tooth limestone is 10 east 1 south, right? Jul 20 01:46:48 what quant? Jul 20 01:47:07 +x -y Jul 20 01:47:07 10 east 1 north for me (CCR) Jul 20 01:47:09 im having luck with 10, 1 in multiple directions Jul 20 01:47:28 -x +y Jul 20 01:47:31 huh, I'll try the other 10/1s then. Jul 20 01:47:41 500 or so Jul 20 01:47:43 and thats in CCR btw Jul 20 01:48:44 --> Dyant|AFK (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:48:44 <-- Dyant has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:50:15 arg. I don't know if I should build a wood treatment tub or a beetle thing... Jul 20 01:50:21 beetles could be fun Jul 20 01:50:30 You could buy more thermometers and do both ;) Jul 20 01:50:37 yeah, I guess I will Jul 20 01:50:42 <-- Dyant|AFK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 20 01:50:44 --> Dyant (Dyant@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:50:48 I need to find someone buying crystals for TN Jul 20 01:51:15 how many pulls do you give a mine when testing for what gem, before giving up on it having anything worthwhile? Jul 20 01:51:19 --> alan|unimpressed (johnnycake@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:51:27 heya knight, theres several public terrariums around Jul 20 01:51:44 yeah, that's true too... Jul 20 01:51:47 5-10, if you gotta pull more than that the frequency's not worth it. Jul 20 01:51:54 who has skillz with HTML? Jul 20 01:51:54 it's not something you can just leave going either... Jul 20 01:51:57 so I may just use those Jul 20 01:51:58 if you want to play before blowing all the sheetglass.. and thermo;s Jul 20 01:52:07 I'm at 9 pulls on this mine without ANY gem whatsoever Jul 20 01:52:24 frequency's probably not worth it then, no matter what the gem. Jul 20 01:52:25 but that gives others a chance to take your beetles Jul 20 01:52:27 RiverWalker: ive seen 50+ pulls with no gems! Jul 20 01:52:31 =\ Jul 20 01:52:43 sheesh, well, I was looking for automateable mines anyway, lol Jul 20 01:52:51 who has skillz with HTML? i need some heelp Jul 20 01:52:53 keep tryin for 10-20 pulls Jul 20 01:53:00 well, that's a great candidate for automation ;P Jul 20 01:53:11 alan: what counts as HTML skillz? there's not much there to work with : ) Jul 20 01:53:32 heh i just need to know how to go about putting a picture in the center of the screen, without using a bunch of
s Jul 20 01:53:35 not quite as bad as askin who's got notepad skillz... Jul 20 01:53:55 center vertically? Jul 20 01:54:00 yes. Jul 20 01:54:23 on an otherwise black page? Jul 20 01:54:26 --> HawkMaster (HawkMaster@HOST_MASKED_BY_STRATICS) has joined #atitd Jul 20 01:54:26 err, blank